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re: Supreme Court rules in favor of Religious companies not covering contraception
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:13 am to The Spleen
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:13 am to The Spleen
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The funny thing about health insurance is probably 90% of what it covers you'll also never use.
What's funny about it? If the insurance company and I agree on what they will cover, and what I will assume 100% of the financial risk for, why do you have the right to interfere with that agreement?
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:14 am to Numberwang
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You know, like taking responsibility for yourself, paying for your own contraception, etc. How dare you expect female adults to pay for their own contraception, you fricking Nazi.
I have no problem with my plan covering vasectomies and Viagra, two things I will never have the need for.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:16 am to Wtodd
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Can someone please tell me how healthcare is a right?
In the moral sense, I think a developed country with some of the best health care available in the world, has some duty to provide said care to the whole of its citizens.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:16 am to Vols&Shaft83
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If the insurance company and I agree on what they will cover, and what I will assume 100% of the financial risk for, why do you have the right to interfere with that agreement?
Because in American 2014, your business is my business and most people just want free shite
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:17 am to The Spleen
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In the moral sense, I think a developed country with some of the best health care available in the world, has some duty to provide said care to the whole of its citizens.
A moral duty I absolutely agree but not a legal duty.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:18 am to The Spleen
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In the moral sense, I think a developed country with some of the best health care available in the world, has some duty to provide said care to the whole of its citizens.
The employer in question fought this mandate, based on a moral sense. What makes your morals worthy of overriding theirs?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:18 am to Vols&Shaft83
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What's funny about it?
I guess the funniest thing is that before ACA, I doubt many people actually took the time to read their policy to see all the things in it that were covered but that they would probably never use.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:19 am to Alahunter
I'm pretty sure Spleen is discussing healthcare in the much broader sense and not the SCOTUS ruling.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to parkjas2001
Yet another 5-4 decision based on ideological lines.
God bless this country
God bless this country
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
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I guess the funniest thing is that before ACA, I doubt many people actually took the time to read their policy to see all the things in it that were covered but that they would probably never use.
I guarantee that those who paid for their individual policies knew quite a bit more than you give them credit for.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
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I guess the funniest thing is that before ACA, I doubt many people actually took the time to read their policy to see all the things in it that were covered but that they would probably never use.
Probably true for many. I suspect that would apply to most though, that thought Obamacare was a good thing, and still don't know what the full effect will be, once the delays finally hit. I and many others, knew exactly what they had though, because they contracted it themselves or were educated enough to actually read what they were signing. The mandates and the "entitlement" of health insurance are for those that don't read and follow blindly.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to UMTigerRebel
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I have no problem with my plan covering vasectomies and Viagra, two things I will never have the need for.
I'd love to see the response if some of these companies riding under the guise of "religious freedom" actually eliminated coverage of ALL forms of birth control.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:22 am to Vols&Shaft83
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I guarantee that those who paid for their individual policies knew quite a bit more than you give them credit for.
No I'm pretty sure the majority did not. It's kind of why ACA was needed.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:24 am to Duke
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I'm pretty sure Spleen is discussing healthcare in the much broader sense and not the SCOTUS ruling.
Likely so. Still, the comparison is valid. One's moral sense in arguing for a broader entitlement of insurance will be in direct conflict with many others' morals in what is covered. Paying one's own way completely, eliminates the conflict.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
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No I'm pretty sure the majority did not. It's kind of why ACA was needed.
so we needed legislation because people didn't know how to read a contract correctly?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:25 am to The Spleen
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No I'm pretty sure the majority did not. It's kind of why ACA was needed.
Then why did the self employed and small business owners oppose the ACA so adamantly?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:26 am to MIZ_COU
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Yet another 5-4 decision based on ideological lines.
so decisions that go your way are not ideological?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:26 am to The Spleen
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It's kind of why ACA was needed.
Obamacare wasn't needed. And has contributed to the -2.9 GDP this country had the first quarter. It's the uneducated and entitlement seeking individuals, that don't hold themselves responsible for anything, that Obamacare was designed for. The more people you can make dependent and give just enough things to, to placate them, will insure their hold of power. Meanwhile, the system burns down around while people remain willfully ignorant of the signs showing it's demise.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to UMTigerRebel
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have no problem with my plan covering vasectomies and Viagra, two things I will never have the need for
Does your plan also cover birth control and hysterectomies?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:29 am to BluegrassBelle
I understand the argument that BC is used for medical purposes but at the end of the day it's still a contraceptive regardless of what you're using it for. And there are companies that are based under a religion that prohibits contraceptive. So why should they be forced to pay for it?
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