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re: Supreme Court rules in favor of Religious companies not covering contraception
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:56 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:56 am to BluegrassBelle
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My insurance has been going up since the first Bush was in office. Obamacare may have sped up the process for some but this isn't some new issue
Mine went up $12 over the course of 4 yrs, before Obamacare. In one increase, this past January 1, it went up 58% and tripled basically, my deductible and yearly out of pocket.
The reason? Because everyone has to be entitled to pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children. Forward with entitlements though.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:58 am to parkjas2001
My company doesn't buy me condoms.
No justice, no peace.
No justice, no peace.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:59 am to Alahunter
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Mine went up $12 over the course of 4 yrs, before Obamacare. In one increase, this past January 1, it went up 58% and tripled basically, my deductible and yearly out of pocket.
I guess you shouldn't feel so entitled to have cheap insurance amiright?
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The reason? Because everyone has to be entitled to pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children. Forward with entitlements though.
So women shouldn't expect reasonable coverage for insurance they pay for at least in part. Damn those entitled women.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:59 am to BluegrassBelle
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So the employer should have a say with their half but the employee should not?
Correct
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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So women shouldn't expect reasonable coverage for insurance they pay for at least in part. Damn those entitled women.
And damn those greedy kids too.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:02 am to BluegrassBelle
So i should have to pay for pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:03 am to BluegrassBelle
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I guess you shouldn't feel so entitled to have cheap insurance amiright?
I pay 100% of my insurance. Why should I have to carry insurance on pediatric and maternity when it will never, ever become an issue? Why should my carrier and myself be FORCED to do away with an agreed to plan in place of one that is more expensive?
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So women shouldn't expect reasonable coverage for insurance they pay for at least in part. Damn those entitled women.
Reasonable coverage. Reasonable gun control. Reasonable speech. Everything is relative to one's own reason. When it infringes on others, it becomes unreasonable. Healthcare isn't a right, and it isn't something that employers should be forced to provide. Employees have the freedom to find jobs that provide them with the benefits they want. Or they can remain at the jobs they are at and accept what is offered to them, above and beyond their compensation for their services.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:03 am to DMagic
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Pulling out is 100% effective
While I agree with the premise, men just can't do this
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:04 am to Vols&Shaft83
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So i should have to pay for pediatric services and maternity
Just pay for the birth control and you don't have to worry about those.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:06 am to Vols&Shaft83
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So i should have to pay for pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children?
I'm not married and I don't have kids either. Like anything else, sometimes there are things you have to pay for as part of the package when you don't want to.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:07 am to parkjas2001
Don't really care about the issue, but do not like any ruling that exempts any company from any law due to any religious beliefs whatsoever.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:07 am to Vols&Shaft83
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So i should have to pay for pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children?
Pretty much all Feminist-driven policy is about extracting resources from all men, and giving them nothing in return. This frees up women to take no self-agency in most areas.
You know, like taking responsibility for yourself, paying for your own contraception, etc. How dare you expect female adults to pay for their own contraception, you fricking Nazi.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:07 am to BluegrassBelle
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Like anything else, sometimes there are things you have to pay for as part of the package when you don't want to
Again, my insurance provider and myself had contracted a plan that didn't provide those 2 things and both parties were happy with it. So, why.. should I now be forced to pay for it?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:08 am to Vols&Shaft83
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So i should have to pay for pediatric services and maternity, nevermind I am not married and have no children?
The funny thing about health insurance is probably 90% of what it covers you'll also never use.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:09 am to BluegrassBelle
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I'm not married and I don't have kids either. Like anything else, sometimes there are things you have to pay for as part of the package when you don't want to.
So, your argument is "life isn't fair, deal with it"?
Oh the irony
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:09 am to The Spleen
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The funny thing about health insurance is probably 90% of what it covers you'll also never use
Yet before, I could choose to opt out of certain things. Now, I cannot. And pay more for it, and have less coverage.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:09 am to Alahunter
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Again, my insurance provider and myself had contracted a plan that didn't provide those 2 things and both parties were happy with it. So, why.. should I now be forced to pay for it?
It's unfortunate but it happens. I'm paying for the same thing.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:11 am to The Spleen
There's a 98% chance that no one on this board is more fiscally conservative than I am so let me throw this out there for ranting:
Can someone please tell me how healthcare is a right? With that said I wish everyone had good healthcare but a right.....just no.
Can someone please tell me how healthcare is a right? With that said I wish everyone had good healthcare but a right.....just no.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:12 am to BluegrassBelle
It didn't happen until the current administration made it happen and convinced enough people they were entitled to something, just because they breathe.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:13 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Don't really care about the issue, but do not like any ruling that exempts any company from any law due to any religious beliefs whatsoever.
i consider every dissenting opinion on this thread as valuable and well thought out except this one.
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