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re: Drinkwitz isn’t Happy Here
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:29 am to AmishSamurai
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:29 am to AmishSamurai
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Which is why it was an idiotic contract for a 1 year HC from the Sun Belt in the first place ...
I think the contract was fine. He was a hot name that offseason and we were in a bidding war. He ended getting placed 10th in the SEC coaching salaries and that seems about right.
Has he been worth $4mil/yr? No but I think that was the price the market required. I liked theh idea of drink at $4mil/yr much better than if we signed the arkansas state head coach for much less.
The cuonzo salary was fine but that firing clause/buyout situation was unacceptable.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 10:31 am
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:38 am to notsince98
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No but I think that was the price the market required. I liked theh idea of drink at $4mil/yr much better than if we signed the arkansas state head coach for much less.
But Eli Drinkwitz resume isn't that of a an SEC HC, it's more of a recruiting/hype man who outkicked his coverage ...
Dave Clawson makes 3.6 MIL/year at Wake Forest.
Who has the better resume?
Granted I'm not sure Clawson would leave for Mizzou ...
All of these awful personnel decisions have one thing in common.
Maybe DRF will fix football like it appears she is trying to fix basketball.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:41 am to AmishSamurai
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But Eli Drinkwitz resume isn't that of a an SEC HC, it's more of a recruiting/hype man who outkicked his coverage ...
Dave Clawson makes 3.6 MIL/year at Wake Forest.
Who has the better resume?
Granted I'm not sure Clawson would leave for Mizzou ...
All of these awful personnel decisions have one thing in common.
Maybe DRF will fix football like it appears she is trying to fix basketball.
The market is the market. If clawson was job hunting this year he'd sign for way more.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:10 am to JesusQuintana
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Well, he better start winning a bunch of games or him getting out will equate to a OC job at Arkansas St making 250k/yr
Did you get hacked?!
In all seriousness, if he is actively letting those grumblings find loose lips ... then the ship has already sailed. Winning cures everything and he has had some close shots, but it's obvious that we're lacking on the offensive side of the ball.
I hope he can turn it around, because I do think he is a good recruiter. HCGP had similar issues leading up to year 3, but that being said ... he had Brad and Chase to get him headed in the right direction. I can only hope Horn is the same for Drink.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:11 am to notsince98
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I think the contract was fine.
Agreed.
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I liked theh idea of drink at $4mil/yr much better than if we signed the arkansas state head coach for much less.
Agreed.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:12 pm to El Segundo Guy
quote:I think hes more complaining about not having enough NIL when it comes to not being able to keep Cayden Green or Miles McVey home. I doubt he expected to get both of them, but he was probably hoping to have enough money for 1 of them.
We don't have 1/3 the resources of a place like A&M, and look at how their hired guns that don't give a shite worked out.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:32 pm to MizzouFan13
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I think hes more complaining about not having enough NIL when it comes to not being able to keep Cayden Green or Miles McVey home. I doubt he expected to get both of them, but he was probably hoping to have enough money for 1 of them.
The issue is until drink can learn to run a fundamentally sound team, no amount of increased talent is going to help him. Drink needs to STFU about disadvantages and figure out how to get an OL to stop missing assignments and be in the right position on running plays. That should be the only thing he is focused on at this point.
Once Drink figures out how to coach the maxmimum potential out of what he has, THEN you focus on improving the talent level.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:49 pm to notsince98
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no amount of increased talent is going to help
Football is 80% Jimmies and Joes
Also, it’s funny that people are running with message board rumors as gospel.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:57 pm to MizzouFan13
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I think hes more complaining about not having enough NIL when it comes to not being able to keep Cayden Green or Miles McVey home.
They chose OU and Bama respectively. If the ONLY thing that would have brought them to Mizzou was we outbid those teams with NIL, then I really don't care. Again, look at A&M and see how many they lose in the portal this year.
Until this team shows an ability to bee at least respectable on the field, the only thing he's counting on is NIL to save his arse?
We've lost players to OU and Bama for decades and him bitchinh about NIL and support from the AD isn't going to change that. If his only selling point to recruits is an NIL check, then we're worse off than I thought.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:33 pm to JesusQuintana
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Also, it’s funny that people are running with message board rumors as gospel.
I heard it over a month ago from someone I trust within the AD. I havnt been running around saying it everywhere, i just commented on this thread stating i had heard that for awhile as well.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:34 pm to notsince98
I dont disagree with you, i was just pointing out what he is more bitching about. I wish he would focus on teaching our line assignment basics cause they dont even have those down.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:24 pm to MizzouFan13
Getting blown out by a B12 team and going 3-4 aren't helping his cause. Good luck getting picked up by another P5 program.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:33 pm to notsince98
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We need a builder like Pinkel was who doesn't make excuses.
See Mark Stoops and Sam Pittman.
I'm afraid the program building route is the only one that will work here long-term. We're not going to outspend them, so the foundation has to be 4 and 5 year players to which stars can be added. Pinkel knew and always prioritized quarterback.
Too bad Odom had the sex appeal and sizzle of a computer systems analyst. He would have been a Mizzou lifer.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:34 pm to MizzouFan13
Ok
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:35 pm to GalacticaCannon
I'll say it again: The hiring of Scott Linehan as a consultant should've been a red flag from the get go.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:08 pm to Mizz-SEC
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See Mark Stoops and Sam Pittman.
I'm afraid the program building route is the only one that will work here long-term. We're not going to outspend them, so the foundation has to be 4 and 5 year players to which stars can be added. Pinkel knew and always prioritized quarterback.
Too bad Odom had the sex appeal and sizzle of a computer systems analyst. He would have been a Mizzou lifer.
100% spot on.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:35 pm to Mizz-SEC
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See Mark Stoops and Sam Pittman.
I'm afraid the program building route is the only one that will work here long-term. We're not going to outspend them, so the foundation has to be 4 and 5 year players to which stars can be added. Pinkel knew and always prioritized quarterback.
Too bad Odom had the sex appeal and sizzle of a computer systems analyst. He would have been a Mizzou lifer.
That is why Stoops didn't do well to begin with. It took Stoops his 6th or 7th year to get the team to be consistently to be average in the SEC and the team not being at the bottom dwellers of the past football teams. Kentucky did fail to have a winning season 2020. It took Stoops a while to get winning record regularly. That is why I am not giving up on Drinkwitz unless he gives up recruiting and start losing the team. This year has been bad due to lack of better players at key positions. OL and quarterback are the ones not on par with SEC.
I read in the St. Louis news that HS coaches were happy to see Odom and president and few others being either let go or fired. The HS coaches also said they have now opened the contact to top players of their schools after those people were fired or let go. In the past the HS coaches held the top players away from any contacts to Mizzou coaching staffs until those key people were fired or let go. But I am not sure how much Odom were at fault. It is now over, and we have witnessed a much better recruiting class so far. Next year I am hoping for a new OC and much better team on offense.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 2:36 am
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:23 am to GalacticaCannon
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Maybe Drink needs to do a better job showcasing his turd of an offense to get better recruits to show interest long enough to throw an NIL at them.
Have to agree 100%. Players want to get in the highlights and Drink's offense is not getting them there. It seems he does the same thing every week and when it doesn't work he does the same thing some more.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:53 pm to TrueLefty
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That is why Stoops didn't do well to begin with.
I dont know that is exactly true. Well is relative and I would say he did well. UK was 2-10 the year before stoops arrived. They were 2-10 his first year. They didn't really go backwards (important) and then in year 2 they went 5-7 (significant progress). This isn't really comparable to Drink who has trended the wrong way for 3 years now. Stoops made progress people could point to.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 2:23 pm to notsince98
Dwitz was 5-5 in an all-SEC schedule his first year, right? I don't think that is going backwards from the year before. He has gone slightly backwards the last 2 years, though.
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