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you think Arch lost control of the ball when his arm was moving forward, despite the Mizzou slapping the ball/hand when Arch's arm was cocked back?


Similar thing happened a couple years ago, and I can't recall if it were Milroe or Young. But, ruled a fumble when the ball moved forward like 10-15 yards in the air. It is just what it is.

I do think that rule should be reviewed and updated. If the QBs hand pushes the ball forward (under control or not) it should be a forward pass. If that same play happens, and it is caught in the air, it would have been and INT or reception, not a fumble recovery.

Just take the guess work out of the call. A QB can pitch a ball forward in any manner they choose and it counts as a forward pass. If it is pushed forward with a pinky, regardless of when it comes loose, it should be a forward pass.


For fun let's suppose Missouri instead of Texas had recovered the Arch "fumble". Would the replay booth have ruled it an incomplete pass?

re: Texas was robbed

Posted by IlliniBuck on 11/9/26 at 9:47 am to
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I think we can both agree the officials in that game sucked.


I am not trying to disrespect Texas. You have enthusiastic fans and a good team. It was a close game and if the officiating had been impartial I would congratulate you and move on.

That is not what we have here. What we have is something fans suspect but don't want to think about. That something was too obvious in Columbia last Saturday.

re: Texas was robbed

Posted by IlliniBuck on 11/9/26 at 8:50 am to
On two of the Missouri receptions called back the receivers had their hands and arms between the ground and the ball. Review of course ruled them incomplete.

The receiving touchdown called back showed the receiver had both hands on the ball as he went down then the ball popped out on the side as he hit the ground. That was very close and I have seen catches like that ruled complete touchdowns in other reviews.

That receiver had to catch the ball one handed in the first place because his other arm was held back by the Texas defensive back while the ball was in the air. No defensive pass interference called.

re: Officiating vs Texas

Posted by IlliniBuck on 11/8/26 at 9:41 pm to
Full game replays have been scrubbed from YouTube this year for some odd reason.

All I can find is the sanitized SEC condensed game version and ESPN highlights. :rolleyes:

re: The fix was on

Posted by IlliniBuck on 11/8/26 at 11:00 am to
I am surprised there is so much national attention on this fix. Maybe LSU will get a fair deal when they play Texas next week because of it.

I would not count on it though.
Add a couple more refs to each game. The Conference has plenty of cash. All of college football has plenty of cash so make it nationwide. The current crews are overloaded with things to watch for and miss too much.

You do not want too many penalties called in games but players and coaches need to ease back on the offensive and defensive holding. They may need extra eyes looking for false starts and off sides. A couple more refs on the field might get players and the coaches that instruct them to reconsider if they can get away with something and make for a cleaner game.

No loss is worse than one where you think the refs screwed your team by calling or not calling penalties. It stays with you for years. This wonderful conference deserves better.
Punting was the right call. Lane trusted his defense to get a stop. The Kentucky field goal kicker was having a bad day to.

Next time he has to make a decision like that though.....
Everyone has trouble with mobile quarterbacks. The pass rushers have to carefully try to contain the qb from running 40 yards downfield. This can give them extra time to pick their target and throw the ball. If the qb is a good passer as well as a good runner that is a big problem. Daniels and Hooker were nightmares to defend. LSU has the players to pull this off but will they?

Looking forward to a fun game to watch Saturday.

re: I'm ready to move on from Drink

Posted by IlliniBuck on 9/12/26 at 8:18 pm to
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I'll give him this: what happened to Dan Lanning today, doesn't happen to him.


For sure his philosophy has won a lot of games and given him a good overall record. I will even say that after 7 years Eli Drinkwitz is Missouri Football.

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Chip Lindsey is throttling this offense down. Simmons is clearly one of the better qbs we've had in a long time.

The type of offense he needs is Chip Kelly not Chip Lindsey


Drink's trademark seems to be "lets establish the run game". Sometimes it takes until mid 3rd quarter to get the run game going and we are down 20-10 by then.

Maybe with Simmons being such a good passer we can break that "get the run game going mold".
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Suicidal empathy.


The foreign born population of Germany is at 30 percent now. The Willkommen German women will be wearing burkas in 20 years.
When the Feminists in Britain and France that advocated for Muslims to enter their country are living under Sharia Law it will be positively hilarious.
I can't take any of this seriously anymore.

I look at it like everyone has to make a buck - and there are big bucks in activism.
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What about stuff like offshore workers or the many other jobs where people are gone regularly. Not everyone can drop everything to show up for one single day I don't see the issue with limited (not talking about months on end) in person early voting


Those people still have mail in ballots. So long as the ballot is received and counted on or before election day.

If you have never seen a mail in ballot it has two parts. One is an envelope with your name and voter information on it. The second part is a ballot that you fill out with your choices. The filled in ballot is placed in the envelope with your voter information on it. The ballot is generic and has no identification about who the voter is or where that vote came from. If the ballot comes in that envelope the county knows it is a valid vote.

During recounts it has come out the election authority did not save the envelope with the voter information on it. They say they don't have facilities to store all those envelopes. There should be one mail in ballot for each envelope but with the envelops gone there is no way of knowing if there are fake manufactured ballots. All that is stored is the vote ballot. Anyone can fill out a hundred ballots and put them in a drop box.

So when a candidate is winning on election day but slowly starts to lose as mail in ballots are counted a week or two after election day it makes you wonder if someone is is making as many fake ballots as they need to win.
Sigh, 2013. As bad as the defense was in that game we still just needed a couple of stops in the late 3rd, early 4th quarter to have a SEC championship.

I admire that the Auburn offense brought many blockers to the point of attack and knocked our guys into oblivion on some plays. On some of those long jet sweeps though, it sure looked like Ealy and Sam were getting held.

Ealy had his hands up the air once in a stick em up pose for the refs to see how he was being held as he tried to get to the sideline. . The refs saw nothing. Heck, maybe I was seeing things.

If they were being held I cannot remember Coach Pinkel jawing at the refs about it like some coaches would.

re: LSU fans this offseason

Posted by IlliniBuck on 12/23/25 at 11:07 pm to
I was looking forward to watching LSU fans gnaw at Brian Kelly's butt this off season.

Instead they fire him and the AD, eat a huge buyout, and walk out of the rubble with Lane Kiffin. Well done LSU,

re: MISSOURI’S TEAM

Posted by IlliniBuck on 12/23/25 at 10:58 pm to
A failed corporate mugging of the STL and KC taxpayers.

re: Chip Lindsey Rumblings

Posted by IlliniBuck on 12/23/25 at 4:49 pm to
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That is truth. The right QB covers a multitude of sins


The Malzhan offense was awesome when he had Nick Marshall to execute it. Was all downhill after Marshall left. Gus held on at Auburn for many years though.

It is not over for Drink. If he can prove he is a good offensive coach he can be the hot coach for the next carousel if he wants to go.. He checks all the boxes otherwise.

re: Drinks buyout..

Posted by IlliniBuck on 11/26/25 at 8:44 pm to
Bernie Miklasz made a video about the offense. As always he just says what he thinks.

His stats are only against SEC teams. Here are some highlights:

Missouri scores 22 points per game. 10th in the SEC. But if you remove the Mississippi State game they score 16 points per game.

After the first drive against Oklahoma that scored 3 points the rushing attack was held to just 23 yards for the rest of the game.

The passing attack stats put us at or near the bottom of the conference. He lists them.

I have always been a Drink fan but am starting to wonder if he can or will improve the offense. Is the problem Quarterbacks? O-Line? Receivers? Scheme?

A link to Bernie's video: The stats start about 9 minutes in. Video is 25 min long.

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