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Watched the game twice my observations
Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:48 pm
I know most don’t give a shite but generally in a lot of games I watch live then I go back and watch it twice to see what I missed especially on games like this.
Observations
Took balls by Coach Harsin to pull his QB but was the right call. I don’t know who will be the starter next week Bo and TJ are about the same player so we will see. Good call by coach Harsin to make a change and seemed to provide a spark.
Like I mentioned above both QBs played about the same not much difference at all. But if the players rally behind TJ then he should be the starter. We don’t have enough information about TJ to really know what his mental make up will be. What we do know is that Bo won’t lose you many games but we also know he won’t win you games either.
Back to in game observations I don’t think I have ever seen a QB benched that hasn’t thrown an INT. Just a bizarre occurrence. WR play was horrible again. The drops will drive you insane.
OL - Ga state was play run all the way. Even safeties crashing the box. Their DL was slanting two gaps across the face of the OL 2 gaps not just a normal one gap and our lineman were missing assignments getting caught up in the traffic and not able to climb to the free running linebackers. They slanted almost always to the QB side anticipating the zone opposite the running back. (Want to note I mentioned we need a slasher running in our stable of backs in the recruiting thread last week this is the reason why Tank and Hunter both are cut backs but not slashers.). Anyway to adjust to that we should have had plays like the counter and toss sweep either from the gun or under center to counter that. That’s why Hunter and Tank would look like no one was even in the area sometimes running straight up the middle the DL slanted so far. Worked well for Ga state because we didn’t adjust.
Wooten and Steiner aren’t McClain and Pappoe but they have to get better at run fits. Most of the big plays were missed assignments. An option(ish) team you have to stop inside out. Take the dive away, then the QB, then the pitch man. We failed on multiple occasions. The DL played average but the back 7 were really bad the first half. Something is broken in either our scheme or communication on the back end. Seems to center around safety but also seems calls are coming in to late to get lined up sometimes. Zakoby is a monster. He is t ideal size but he is a straight baller. Seemed to settle everything down with his return in thr 2nd half. We still can’t generate a pass rush but I like Eku opposite of Wooden. He plays with leverage doesn’t rush up field on pass rush and is a good mix with Hall and TD hope yo see more of him.
Special teams were about the same made some big plays blocked kick for score (Congrats Caylin). To many penalties, muffed punt, missed FG.
At the end of the day we stole a win. Coaches coached hard but were way to basic in the first half. Took to long to adjust. Everyone seemed to have a good play and then 2 bad plays.
On to Red Stick. I have no idea if we win 8 conference games or lose 8. Hold on tight October looks brutal
Observations
Took balls by Coach Harsin to pull his QB but was the right call. I don’t know who will be the starter next week Bo and TJ are about the same player so we will see. Good call by coach Harsin to make a change and seemed to provide a spark.
Like I mentioned above both QBs played about the same not much difference at all. But if the players rally behind TJ then he should be the starter. We don’t have enough information about TJ to really know what his mental make up will be. What we do know is that Bo won’t lose you many games but we also know he won’t win you games either.
Back to in game observations I don’t think I have ever seen a QB benched that hasn’t thrown an INT. Just a bizarre occurrence. WR play was horrible again. The drops will drive you insane.
OL - Ga state was play run all the way. Even safeties crashing the box. Their DL was slanting two gaps across the face of the OL 2 gaps not just a normal one gap and our lineman were missing assignments getting caught up in the traffic and not able to climb to the free running linebackers. They slanted almost always to the QB side anticipating the zone opposite the running back. (Want to note I mentioned we need a slasher running in our stable of backs in the recruiting thread last week this is the reason why Tank and Hunter both are cut backs but not slashers.). Anyway to adjust to that we should have had plays like the counter and toss sweep either from the gun or under center to counter that. That’s why Hunter and Tank would look like no one was even in the area sometimes running straight up the middle the DL slanted so far. Worked well for Ga state because we didn’t adjust.
Wooten and Steiner aren’t McClain and Pappoe but they have to get better at run fits. Most of the big plays were missed assignments. An option(ish) team you have to stop inside out. Take the dive away, then the QB, then the pitch man. We failed on multiple occasions. The DL played average but the back 7 were really bad the first half. Something is broken in either our scheme or communication on the back end. Seems to center around safety but also seems calls are coming in to late to get lined up sometimes. Zakoby is a monster. He is t ideal size but he is a straight baller. Seemed to settle everything down with his return in thr 2nd half. We still can’t generate a pass rush but I like Eku opposite of Wooden. He plays with leverage doesn’t rush up field on pass rush and is a good mix with Hall and TD hope yo see more of him.
Special teams were about the same made some big plays blocked kick for score (Congrats Caylin). To many penalties, muffed punt, missed FG.
At the end of the day we stole a win. Coaches coached hard but were way to basic in the first half. Took to long to adjust. Everyone seemed to have a good play and then 2 bad plays.
On to Red Stick. I have no idea if we win 8 conference games or lose 8. Hold on tight October looks brutal
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:12 pm to CorchJay
Thanks CorchJay, I enjoy reading your post and input!
WDE!!!
WDE!!!
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:57 pm to CorchJay
Wow, yesterday you told several of us to shut the frick up about wanting Bo pulled.
Today it was “the right thing to do”.
Hindsight 20/20?
Today it was “the right thing to do”.
Hindsight 20/20?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:00 pm to AUWDE
I still would have stuck with Bo. But in hindsight it created emotion play was basically the same. So 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:07 pm to CorchJay
quote:I've only watched it once, but that being said, I'm curious about your thoughts on the change in defense for the second half. Can you expand on the zone coverage vs. man? It appeared to me that we stunted a lot more in the second half, bringing pressure that was obviously not there in the 1st half.
CorchJay
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:07 pm to CorchJay
Also have to see who the team rally’s behind the first couple days of practice then you will know your starter.
Just like no one is saying Hunter should be RB1 over Tank even after a bad day by Tank.
It will play out either you trust who you hired or you don’t.
Only thing we can say is it worked yesterday. You look toward advanced stats and Bo has been more accurate then TJ what everyone has been complaining about. Also first and second down completion percent TJ slightly edges Bo out but 3rd down completion percentage is heavily favored in Bo’s direction. And I’ve been bitching about the “throw away” down Bo has… the first and second down throws are just as important as the 3rd down throws because it makes for less 3rd down throws and easier ones when you get to 3rd down
Just like no one is saying Hunter should be RB1 over Tank even after a bad day by Tank.
It will play out either you trust who you hired or you don’t.
Only thing we can say is it worked yesterday. You look toward advanced stats and Bo has been more accurate then TJ what everyone has been complaining about. Also first and second down completion percent TJ slightly edges Bo out but 3rd down completion percentage is heavily favored in Bo’s direction. And I’ve been bitching about the “throw away” down Bo has… the first and second down throws are just as important as the 3rd down throws because it makes for less 3rd down throws and easier ones when you get to 3rd down
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:12 pm to CorchJay
Traitor
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:12 pm to greygoose
Yes we played better up front as well. We were more gap sound in the second half not sure if it was a scheme adjustment or just whiteboard adjust for DL of who has who. The backend I could clearly see improvement in communication could visually see the DBs talking and point in both man and zone.
As far as breaking down man and zone we just aren’t good in zone there is no anticipation just like Bo doesn’t anticipate an WR coming open. However Bo did on the overthrow to J.Johnson just missed him. Smoke has to step up and get aligned and know his assignment in zone. Not gonna trash him because none are playing great in zone packages. I would just like to see pressure from somewhere when we are in zone after they pass the plus 40.
As far as breaking down man and zone we just aren’t good in zone there is no anticipation just like Bo doesn’t anticipate an WR coming open. However Bo did on the overthrow to J.Johnson just missed him. Smoke has to step up and get aligned and know his assignment in zone. Not gonna trash him because none are playing great in zone packages. I would just like to see pressure from somewhere when we are in zone after they pass the plus 40.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:14 pm to CorchJay
There's a theme now that Bo is pretty chirpy and players don't like and respect him. No idea if that's true but if Finley is going to be the same but be liked... food for thought.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:15 pm to jangalang
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Traitor
Lol hardly. I still think Bo is our best shot to win big games. Just looking back Harsin made the right move.
Like I said at this point whoever the players rally around needs to play whether that be TJ or Bo. It won’t be hard to see in practice. I don’t think Bo is done.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:16 pm to CorchJay
Guess it's too easy to say just toss TJ out there, not only on his performance, but having seen the D he'll be facing in live practice, huh?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:18 pm to CorchJay
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Lol hardly. I still think Bo is our best shot to win big games. Just looking back Harsin made the right move.
Just messing with ya. Everyone gave me shite for toting Gatewood’ jock. I guess I’m just late to get off the bandwagon.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:19 pm to CorchJay
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Just like no one is saying Hunter should be RB1 over Tank even after a bad day by Tank.
That’s because Tank rarely has a bad game. Nix rarely has a good game, so there’s a big difference there.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:24 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Not sure what you mean but at this point Bo won the job in the fall when bullets where flying.
But now the QBs don’t get pressured in practice only in game. Neither QB handled pressure well yesterday unless you call flipping a pass forward handling it well or stumbling and bumbling on a 4th down busted play handling pressure.
I just don’t think there is much separation between the 2 QBs. I think TJ provided some energy yesterday but that wears off after it’s done. Now it comes down to performance.
Whatever coach decides he goes with. As of Sunday I expect Bo to start at LSU but if he handles being benched like a jackwagon I could easily see TJ starting
But now the QBs don’t get pressured in practice only in game. Neither QB handled pressure well yesterday unless you call flipping a pass forward handling it well or stumbling and bumbling on a 4th down busted play handling pressure.
I just don’t think there is much separation between the 2 QBs. I think TJ provided some energy yesterday but that wears off after it’s done. Now it comes down to performance.
Whatever coach decides he goes with. As of Sunday I expect Bo to start at LSU but if he handles being benched like a jackwagon I could easily see TJ starting
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:38 pm to CorchJay
Neither are accurate, but one guy stepped up in the pocket and hit the open man with manageable throws. The other guy drifts or turns to the sideline creating bad angles and throws up prayers.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:44 pm to CorchJay
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Whatever coach decides he goes with. As of Sunday I expect Bo to start at LSU but if he handles being benched like a jackwagon I could easily see TJ starting
could not agree more. It depends on how Bo responds. I hope it lights a fire under his arse.
Say you start TJ.........what if he struggles against LSU? Do you go back to the two plus year starter you just benched?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:58 pm to MrAUTigers
If TJ starts the LSU coaches will know more about him then our coaches. I don’t think you short leach him but you play yo win.
In all honesty it’s probably an easier decision to go with Bo. See how it goes and then if it goes bad you just turn it over to TJ for good. That’s how I see it going.
In all honesty it’s probably an easier decision to go with Bo. See how it goes and then if it goes bad you just turn it over to TJ for good. That’s how I see it going.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:22 pm to CorchJay
I just feel sorry for u watching the game 3 times
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:57 pm to CorchJay
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Not sure what you mean but at this point Bo won the job in the fall when bullets where flying.
TJ Finley, transferred from LSU, did he not ? He's literally practiced vs D that we'll be facing on Saturday. Maybe not this year's squad, but if there's any benefit...
Not sure what's so confusing.
Bo's been up and down since his epic last drive vs Oregon back in '19. The worst part is that he's not progressed greatly since then.
If Bo needs a benching in his Jr year to send him a signal, maybe he's not the leader we need after all? Just a thought.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:02 pm to CorchJay
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Neither QB handled pressure well yesterday unless you call flipping a pass forward handling it well or stumbling and bumbling on a 4th down busted play handling pressure.
They do for some reason
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