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Why didn't the other Pac 12 teams run the Washington defense against Leach?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:33 pm
Arkansas clearly watched a ton of Washington tape before the Moo State game and now everyone has copied that gameplan in the SEC to perfection and effectively killed the classic Air Raid.
It took 2 games for the league to shut Leach down. The Big 12 doesn't care about playing defense so I kind of give them a pass plus Leach's scheme was still relatively new then. But the Pac 12, for 7+ years had no excuse. Chris Peterson and Washington were literally giving everyone else the gameplan and no one else seemed to be able to use it effectively on the regular.
Were these DCs all as dumb as Bo Pelini? Or were they just too stupid to implement what worked for years against his biggest rival.
It took 2 games for the league to shut Leach down. The Big 12 doesn't care about playing defense so I kind of give them a pass plus Leach's scheme was still relatively new then. But the Pac 12, for 7+ years had no excuse. Chris Peterson and Washington were literally giving everyone else the gameplan and no one else seemed to be able to use it effectively on the regular.
Were these DCs all as dumb as Bo Pelini? Or were they just too stupid to implement what worked for years against his biggest rival.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 8:36 pm
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:34 pm to Jack Ruby
I'm not 100% sure, but I think a lot of them tried but couldn't execute it well
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:36 pm to Jack Ruby
Too busy marching for BLM
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:36 pm to Jack Ruby
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Were these DCs all as dumb as Bo Pelini?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:37 pm to Porcine Human
Washington is one of the more talented teams in the Pac on a yearly basis (they've underachieved lately though), that might be a factor
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:38 pm to Jack Ruby
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Why didn't the other Pac 12 teams run the Washington defense against Leach? by Jack Ruby
Because he had a solid OL and his QB would have time to find the open man.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:41 pm to Mithridates6
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Washington is one of the more talented teams in the Pac on a yearly basis (they've underachieved lately though), that might be a factor
Arkansas and Kentucky are both good defensive teams, but on paper they have virtually the same amount of talent, or even slight less, than Moo State.
At Wazzu, he was probably the close to the worst recruiter in the league, yet still won a lot there. I can see the Washington talent gap angle, but he also beat the likes of USC a lot, who had vastly more talent than basically anyone in the league. It doesn't add up.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:42 pm to Jack Ruby
Personnel
Been a lot of evolution in defenses in the last couple years. At this time most teams have the personnel and ability to run these schemes now.
SEC has had the ability for longer hence why no SEC teams would hire him.
Been a lot of evolution in defenses in the last couple years. At this time most teams have the personnel and ability to run these schemes now.
SEC has had the ability for longer hence why no SEC teams would hire him.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:48 pm to Jack Ruby
Oregon did and lost 4 of the last 5. Leach doesn't have the offensive line he needs at State to execute his air raid
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:56 pm to theenemy
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SEC has had the ability for longer hence why no SEC teams would hire him.
What? MS ST?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:57 pm to weadjust
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Leach doesn't have the offensive line
This..
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:00 pm to Jack Ruby
No one else had the linebackers that could do it. Everyone in the SEC does.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:00 pm to dbuchanon
Or receivers.
Or qb.
Or qb.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:01 pm to Jack Ruby
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Why didn't the other Pac 12 teams run the Washington defense against Leach?
I mean... he did average more than 5 losses a year at Wazzou.
Some truly terrible ones early on, one break out 11-2 year, a couple of solid 9 wins, and a pair of 6-7 seasons.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:02 pm to anc
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No one else had the linebackers that could do it. Everyone in the SEC does.
If a LB can cover your WR in zone, you have some slow arse WRs
Which is also a problem, State doesn't have speed at WR to take the top off of defenses. But it starts up front
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:03 pm to theGarnetWay
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he did average more than 5 losses a year
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at Wazzou.
Found the problem. How were they before Leach? Same with TT??
Im actually pretty interested to watch Wazzou this year if they play. They hired a Run & Shoot guy
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:03 pm to Mr Sausage
They have maybe one SEC caliber receiver now. If he can hold together this recruiting class, that will change soon
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:22 pm to Mithridates6
Washington has had 7 DBs and 5 LBs drafted since 2015. Six of their DBs were drafted in the first two rounds.
That’s a lot more talent on the back end than most teams, especially the Pac12.
That’s a lot more talent on the back end than most teams, especially the Pac12.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:28 pm to Jack Ruby
Better question is how did LSU not stop it?
What a joke.
What a joke.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:37 pm to Ghost of Colby
Budda Baker and Byron Murphy last night for the Cards went there. They have underachieved the last couple years since they made that playoff game vs Bama; lots of close losses.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 9:38 pm
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