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Since 2000, What SEC Team Has Overachieved & Underachieved Most?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:21 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:21 am
Underachieved- Texas A&M
Overachieved- Maybe Missouri. I never thought they would EVER win 2 division titles in the SEC. An argument could also be made for Kentucky.
Overachieved- Maybe Missouri. I never thought they would EVER win 2 division titles in the SEC. An argument could also be made for Kentucky.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:35 am to LSUnHogCountry
UGA has underachieved in the fact that they do not have a national title by now especially with all that elite talent.
AU, Bama, LSU, UF all have one or more. Now it's Georgia's turn and they always fall a little bit short. Can Kirby get them there??
AU, Bama, LSU, UF all have one or more. Now it's Georgia's turn and they always fall a little bit short. Can Kirby get them there??
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:48 am to LSUnHogCountry
Over achieved Auburn, because they suck
Under achieved Arkansas because they should easily be the 2nd best program in the west
Under achieved Arkansas because they should easily be the 2nd best program in the west
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:56 am to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved - UGA is the correct answer, but another one is Auburn. 17 top 20 recruiting classes and 9ish top 10 recruiting classes in the past 20 years, yet only one championship and a bunch of wasted seasons under Malzahn.
Overachieved - Missouri. Almost went to a national championship in 2007 and won two SEC East Titles. Also, today I learned that Missouri has been to 12 bowl games since 2003. Wouldn't have guessed that.
Overachieved - Missouri. Almost went to a national championship in 2007 and won two SEC East Titles. Also, today I learned that Missouri has been to 12 bowl games since 2003. Wouldn't have guessed that.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:07 am to LSUnHogCountry
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Since 2000
Why?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:03 am to LSUnHogCountry
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Since 2000, What SEC Team Has Overachieved & Underachieved Most
I mean it has to be UT right? They did have some success in the early 2000s still with Fulmer still rolling but they went from a legitimate national power in the late 90s to beginning the worst stretch in program history only half a dozen or so years later.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:27 am to LSUnHogCountry
Since we are the almost unanimous "Overachievers", figured I'd just post our seasons.
2000 Smith 3–8 2–6 T-5th (North)
Gary Pinkel (Big 12) (2001–2011)
2001 Pinkel 4–7 3–5 T-4th (North)
2002 Pinkel 5–7 2–6 5th (North)
2003 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 3rd (North) L Independence
2004 Pinkel 5–6 3–5 T-3rd (North)
2005 Pinkel 7–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) W Independence
2006 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) L Sun
2007 Pinkel 12–2 7–1 1st (North) W Cotton 5 4
2008 Pinkel 10–4 5–3 1st (North) W Alamo 16 19
2009 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) L Texas
2010 Pinkel 10–3 6–2 T-1st (North) L Insight 18 18
2011 Pinkel 8–5 5–4 W Independence
Gary Pinkel (SEC) (2012–2015)
2012 Pinkel 5–7 2–6 5th (East)
2013 Pinkel 12–2 7–1 1st (East) W Cotton 5 5
2014 Pinkel 11–3 7–1 1st (East) W Citrus 11 14
2015 Pinkel 5–7 1–7 6th (East)
Barry Odom (SEC) (2016–2019)
2016 Odom 4–8 2–6 7th (East)
2017 Odom 7–6 4–4 T-3rd (East) L Texas
2018 Odom 8–5 4–4 T-4th (East) L Liberty
2019 Odom 6–6 3–5 T-4th (East)
For underachievers, gotta go Tennessee. For a program that thinks of themselves as blue blood, they only have four 10 win seasons since 2000....Missouri has 5
2000 Smith 3–8 2–6 T-5th (North)
Gary Pinkel (Big 12) (2001–2011)
2001 Pinkel 4–7 3–5 T-4th (North)
2002 Pinkel 5–7 2–6 5th (North)
2003 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 3rd (North) L Independence
2004 Pinkel 5–6 3–5 T-3rd (North)
2005 Pinkel 7–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) W Independence
2006 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) L Sun
2007 Pinkel 12–2 7–1 1st (North) W Cotton 5 4
2008 Pinkel 10–4 5–3 1st (North) W Alamo 16 19
2009 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 T-2nd (North) L Texas
2010 Pinkel 10–3 6–2 T-1st (North) L Insight 18 18
2011 Pinkel 8–5 5–4 W Independence
Gary Pinkel (SEC) (2012–2015)
2012 Pinkel 5–7 2–6 5th (East)
2013 Pinkel 12–2 7–1 1st (East) W Cotton 5 5
2014 Pinkel 11–3 7–1 1st (East) W Citrus 11 14
2015 Pinkel 5–7 1–7 6th (East)
Barry Odom (SEC) (2016–2019)
2016 Odom 4–8 2–6 7th (East)
2017 Odom 7–6 4–4 T-3rd (East) L Texas
2018 Odom 8–5 4–4 T-4th (East) L Liberty
2019 Odom 6–6 3–5 T-4th (East)
For underachievers, gotta go Tennessee. For a program that thinks of themselves as blue blood, they only have four 10 win seasons since 2000....Missouri has 5
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:33 am to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved- UGA by a mile
Tennessee has declined greatly starting in 2000.
Florida had a dominant run with Urban but has had some extremely weak years too with Zook, Muschamp and Beaver teeth.
UGA is spoonfed talent and they can’t win it. Georgia produces badass lineman, QBs, skill guys, literally everything and most of them are within an hour of campus.
How they haven’t put it together for at least 1 title in the past 40 years baffles me.
Over achieved- Missouri. Getting into the SEC, winning 2 East titles and almost making it to the natty in 07
Tennessee has declined greatly starting in 2000.
Florida had a dominant run with Urban but has had some extremely weak years too with Zook, Muschamp and Beaver teeth.
UGA is spoonfed talent and they can’t win it. Georgia produces badass lineman, QBs, skill guys, literally everything and most of them are within an hour of campus.
How they haven’t put it together for at least 1 title in the past 40 years baffles me.
Over achieved- Missouri. Getting into the SEC, winning 2 East titles and almost making it to the natty in 07
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:12 pm to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved- Tennessee or Georgia
Overachieved- LSU or Alabama
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Overachieved- LSU or Alabama
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:21 pm to LSUnHogCountry
If we're starting at 2000 I say UGA underachieved given the talent and expectations and lack of quality in the rest of the East. The fact that a program as classless as UF was the standard bearer for so long is a stain on our collective honor.
UT gets a pass here. Think about it. If they underachieved so did Arky, Vandy, the Cleveland Browns, Caddyshack 2, and every piece of Chinese electronics ever made. They expectations are similar: shittiness is the standard.
Overachieved: Auburn. They are up against serious headwinds and have found a way to compete and win Chips. Success despite their recruiting challenges is one thing, but overcoming collective depression, clinical little brother syndrome, and extremely severe small dick energy is nothing short of miraculous. Kudos to the Barner.
UT gets a pass here. Think about it. If they underachieved so did Arky, Vandy, the Cleveland Browns, Caddyshack 2, and every piece of Chinese electronics ever made. They expectations are similar: shittiness is the standard.
Overachieved: Auburn. They are up against serious headwinds and have found a way to compete and win Chips. Success despite their recruiting challenges is one thing, but overcoming collective depression, clinical little brother syndrome, and extremely severe small dick energy is nothing short of miraculous. Kudos to the Barner.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:14 pm to LSUnHogCountry
you could make the case for georgia as biggest underachiever - they've had national title -level talent like 5-6 times, and struck out.
but, at the same time, they've still had some really great seasons.
but, at the same time, they've still had some really great seasons.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:42 pm to LSUnHogCountry
LSU massively over achieved way above its status.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:43 pm to LSUnHogCountry
I mean the obvious and easy answer is Georgia. Since 2010 though its Florida. No conference titles the entire decade is embarassing. Only two BCS wins as well, and both the last two years. Kind of unacceptable here. Hopefully Mullen continues to improved
Overachieved
I think I'd go Missouri for the 20 years, Miss State for 2010 on
Overachieved
I think I'd go Missouri for the 20 years, Miss State for 2010 on
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:54 am to LSUnHogCountry
The Underachiever is easily Tennessee. There is no debate. In the context of the OP, since 2000, UT is clearly the underachievers. UGA would be the answer if the question was since 1980, but it isn't - and I feel like people are unfairly grading UGA's last 20 years more harshly because it was another 20 years prior to 2000 for their last title - but that doesn't matter when it comes to 2000-2020.
Since 2000, only 11 schools have won national titles. Should UGA be in that group - probably. But there are plenty of blue bloods/powers that haven't won it in the last 20 years - Michigan, ND, Tennessee, Penn State, Nebraska.
UGA has 3 SEC titles. UGA has been a national tile contender in multiple seasons. They were a play or two away from winning a natty. I can think of 4 seasons where UGA at season end was a spot or 2 away from the BCS title game/making playoffs - 2002, 2007, 2018, 2019. Adding in the year they made the natty, that's 5 years out of 20 where they were bonafide contenders - it just hasn't happened for them.
Compare the to Tennessee. 0 SEC titles, and I can't think of a single season where they have been a national title contender at year end (correct me if I am wrong?).
It isn't even a comparison. The only logical argument for saying UGA is the bigger underachiever is if you think UT has deteriorated so much as a program that UGA is now on a completely higher plane and thus has more expectations. Which, if that is the case, would only bolster UT being the bigger underachievers since 2000 as prior to 2000, UGA and UT were definitely on the same tier and if anything, UT was on a higher one. The arguments for UGA are being cloudied by unfairly knocking them for "1980" which is entirely outside the scope of 2000-2020.
Since 2000, only 11 schools have won national titles. Should UGA be in that group - probably. But there are plenty of blue bloods/powers that haven't won it in the last 20 years - Michigan, ND, Tennessee, Penn State, Nebraska.
UGA has 3 SEC titles. UGA has been a national tile contender in multiple seasons. They were a play or two away from winning a natty. I can think of 4 seasons where UGA at season end was a spot or 2 away from the BCS title game/making playoffs - 2002, 2007, 2018, 2019. Adding in the year they made the natty, that's 5 years out of 20 where they were bonafide contenders - it just hasn't happened for them.
Compare the to Tennessee. 0 SEC titles, and I can't think of a single season where they have been a national title contender at year end (correct me if I am wrong?).
It isn't even a comparison. The only logical argument for saying UGA is the bigger underachiever is if you think UT has deteriorated so much as a program that UGA is now on a completely higher plane and thus has more expectations. Which, if that is the case, would only bolster UT being the bigger underachievers since 2000 as prior to 2000, UGA and UT were definitely on the same tier and if anything, UT was on a higher one. The arguments for UGA are being cloudied by unfairly knocking them for "1980" which is entirely outside the scope of 2000-2020.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:06 am to LSUnHogCountry
UGA easily has underachieved the most. They have a huge advantage on everyone because they are the flagship school of probably the most talented state per capita in the whole country...... and yet they don’t have shite to show for it but their fans act like they belong at the same table with Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and LSU
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:07 pm to LSUnHogCountry
Texas A&M has always been mediocre. Tennessee falling off so spectacularly is the surprise they were the #2 team in most SEC all time categories and have been passed up by Georgia since then and LSU is closing the gap as well
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:46 pm to LSUnHogCountry
I'd say Vandy overachieved during the Franklin years.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:45 pm to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved UGA and maybe LSU.
Overachieved Missouri and MSU.
Overachieved Missouri and MSU.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:23 pm to LSUnHogCountry
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Since 2000
Ok boomer
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