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PFF highest returning big uglies on offense.

Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:22 pm
Brent Rollins
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#SEC Highest-graded returning O-linemen

Darian Kinnard, UK - 89.2
Jamaree Salyer, UGA - 81.3
Trey Smith, UT - 78.6
Landon Young, UK - 78.3
Drake Jackson, UK - 78.0
Ben Cleveland, UGA - 77.4
Luke Fortner, UK - 77.0
Carson Green, A&M - 76.3
Trey Hill, UGA - 73.6

linky
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:23 pm to
That cant be. UGA lost 4 starters on the OL (or did we?)
Posted by chillmonster
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:42 pm to
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That cant be. UGA lost 4 starters on the OL (or did we?)


Correction: "UGA lost 12 starters on the O-Line and a QB just as good as Joe Burrow. I'll close with 1492, 1776, 1865 and other famous years in history."
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:45 pm to
Where’s Cade Mays?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:52 pm to
So Alabama had the #3 offensive line in the country and #2 in the SEC per PFF and none of the 4 returning starters is a Top 10 OL in the league or has an above average grade per PFF?

Seems strange. I guess Jedrick Wills was a 1 man show.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:54 pm to
Because yall suck!!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:55 pm to
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Because yall suck!!





BUT THEY SAID WE DIDNT SUCK

I CANT RECONCILE THE VARIOUS AMOUNTS OF ASSIGNED SUCKAGE FROM THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:58 pm to
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Carson Green, A&M - 76.3 


And with that, PFF loses ALL credibility. Carson Green may be our worst returning lineman.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:03 pm to
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Where’s Cade Mays?

Combing his neck beard.
Posted by xenythx
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:21 pm to
Not dismissing it, because I think UK had a good line last year, but how much are their grades pumped up because they basically never dropped back to pass the entire second half of the season?
Posted by chillmonster
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:25 pm to
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Not dismissing it, because I think UK had a good line last year, but how much are their grades pumped up because they basically never dropped back to pass the entire second half of the season?


I'd like insight into a lot of the PFF methodology. The list does seem skewed toward players who spent most of their time run blocking.
Posted by WildcatMike
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:27 pm to
Tenner fans told me they had the best OL EVER. What gives?
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:34 pm to
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Not dismissing it, because I think UK had a good line last year, but how much are their grades pumped up because they basically never dropped back to pass the entire second half of the season?


This is a good question. I have nothing to add.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:35 pm to
That's true. Although, OTOH, this metric also takes run blocking when everybody and their mother knows you're running the ball.

It goes both ways.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:40 pm to
One of the worst things about PFF is that it doesn’t factor in levels of competition into its formula. It looks at outcomes in black and white. Who cares if you steamroll over your FCS opponent if you perform thoroughly mediocre against your in conference opponents?

Some one off big plays can dramatically influence their data points as well.

Some of their metrics are great, but a lot of them are poop.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:42 pm to
I'm not saying it's the gospel or anything. Just an actuall off-season topic.

Posted by lsufanva
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:05 pm to
Their "formula" or whatever really is strange. It's like the wr rankings yesterday with the LSU kids. Burrow averaged less than 10 incompletions per game but the percentages of catch/target ratios were lower than his completion percentage. There weren't enough incompletions to go around to get those numbers.
If there were I'd like to see Jefferson, Moss and CEHs numbers. They had to have been astronomical
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Not dismissing it, because I think UK had a good line last year, but how much are their grades pumped up because they basically never dropped back to pass the entire second half of the season?


I’d make the argument that on the flipside they created some pretty big lanes for Bowden and the RBs when everyone in the country was stacking the box and knew the run was coming. They were very, very good at getting that push this last season.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:10 pm to
Impressive. It seems like like an 8-4 season isn't out of the question in Kentucky.

Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:28 pm to
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Impressive. It seems like like an 8-4 season isn't out of the question in Kentucky.

We won 8 with the 5th string QB option last year, won 10 the yr before. We'll be seeing you in Atlanta in December baw.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 7:30 pm
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