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re: What is the consensus on Fromm?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:18 pm to Vol92
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:18 pm to Vol92
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Take away those WRs and you are seeing this year that he doesn't look capable of beating good teams,
Take away elite WR's for Tua,Fields and Lawrence and what do you have? I suppose Tua and Fields would be able to help you out with their legs but it wouldn't get you very far.
Not only our WR not elite,they're below average at best.If we just had ONE very good WR it would take pressure off our younger,talented WR's and open up the passing game.
Kearis Jackson will be healthy for UF and I hope to God Cager is.
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:19 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
He's a somewhere between a game manager and game changer. Really good college QB in a system where he doesn't have to be the man because of all the talent around him. Very similar to David Greene and Aaron Murray.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:22 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
quote:^^Exactly what Aub's say about Gus.
However, his coaching deficiencies are obvious by now. We want him to stop being so stubborn and open up the offense.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:24 pm to Ross
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AJ McCarron reincarnated
AJ McCarron won 2 national titles so not really
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:25 pm to AUCE05
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Overall, I label him as a "safe" option. You know he wont lose the game for you. However, he doesn't have the skill set to dominate a game. UGA needs a powerful surrounding cast to be successful
This is where I stand on him as well.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:29 pm to VADawg
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Overall, I label him as a "safe" option. You know he wont lose the game for you. However, he doesn't have the skill set to dominate a game. UGA needs a powerful surrounding cast to be successful
This is where I stand on him as well.
So do you UGA fans that think something like this also think Smart made the wrong choice keeping Fromm and letting Fields go?
Yes, I realize it isn't that simple, but if Smart had given Fields ample playing time, and the entire playbook, with the understanding that the next season best man would win the job, I think Fields would have stayed. That's the way Saban played it with Tua and Jalen.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:35 pm to John Milner
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So do you UGA fans that think something like this also think Smart made the wrong choice keeping Fromm and letting Fields go?
I 100% believe this. Kirby didn't have the balls to make the decision that needed to be made like Dabo did. The bye week between LSU and Florida last year would have been the perfect time for it as Fromm was dreadful against LSU.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:40 pm to VADawg
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I 100% believe this. Kirby didn't have the balls to make the decision that needed to be made like Dabo did. The bye week between LSU and Florida last year would have been the perfect time for it as Fromm was dreadful against LSU.
thanks for the reasonable response. I know it would have been tough, though, considering Fromm led the team to a SEC title and the national championship game the year before. Whatever decision or direction Smart could choose would not please everybody.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:46 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
I personally think he’s a really good college QB who has suffered from being coached by mediocre OCs. Cohen must be bad based on the talent on the field. Jim Chaney was overrated before he ever set food in Athens. Arkansas fans weren’t sad to see him go.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:52 pm to RD Dawg
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Not only our WR not elite,they're below average at best.If we just had ONE very good WR it would take pressure off our younger,talented WR's and open up the passing game.
Why do my GA fans love to coddle Fromm? The kid has 9tds and 3int. Quintin Harris has 12 TDs at Duke. Are the Duke receivers elite?
UGA has highly talented players at receiver. DRob had 760 yards and 7 TDs as a freshman. Pickens and Blaylock are both very good young players and it's partly the veteran QB's job to bring the best out of them.
Fromm is a solid player that I'm happy to have on this team, but he has not proven himself to be great either from a talent, production, or a leadership perspective.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:22 pm to Auburn80
He has the best Oline in the country and a shite load of 5* WRs and threw for 35 yards against Kentucky.
Soak that in- THIRTY FIVE yards.
Kids overrated, good leader but he’ll never be an NFL starter
Soak that in- THIRTY FIVE yards.
Kids overrated, good leader but he’ll never be an NFL starter
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:27 pm to chillmonster
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Why do my GA fans love to coddle Fromm? The kid has 9tds and 3int.
And Jake had 30 TD'and 6 INT last year.WTF is your point? So he all of a sudden got worse this year?
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Quintin Harris has 12 TDs at Duke. Are the Duke receivers elite?
Did you just compare a Duke QB in the ACC to Jake Fromm in the SEC? God almighty.
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UGA has highly talented players at receiver
What? Landers is complete garbage along with Simmons and who exactly is our stud TE? Doesn't it give you some type of clue to the quality of our receiving group when our best WR and TE our both grad transfers?
We have 3 recievers on NFL rosters from last year's team.We'll have ZERO upperclassmen that will make NFL rosters from this receiving group including D-Rob
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partly the veteran QB's job to bring the best out of them.
What? It's the job of the OC
to put the QB and WR's in the best possible posistion for success and clearly that's not happening.
Once again,did he all of a sudden lose his his skill and talent to read defenses in 1 year?
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he has not proven himself to be great either from a talent, production, or a leadership perspective.
Really? Is that why he was projected as 1st Rd pick by so many services?
Production? He has 2 of the 3 highest QBR's in UGA history.Only Aaron Murray has a higher seasonal QBR and that was as a 5 th year senior.
Here's a LINKbreakdown by Hutson Mason of what happened with the 3 pics vs SC.Two were clearly on the WR's (Landers and Simmons) the pick 6 was on Jake but he clearly got little help from Wilson on the OL who whiffs on Kinlaw.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:30 pm to AUCE05
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You know he wont lose the game for you.
Too bad We can’t say this anymore.
Overrated.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:32 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
A little of both, but I think y'all had 2 QBs better than him. He's not as good as Eason, and nowhere close to Fields IMO.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:44 pm to AUCE05
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Overall, I label him as a "safe" option. You know he wont lose the game for you.
Used to agree, but he 100% lost to the game to South Carolina. He was HORRIBLE in that game.
They put the ball in his hands (threw it 51 times) and he kept screwing up.
28/51 (55%), 1 TD and 3 INTs, 5.8 YPA, for a QBR of 34
All other QBs against South Carolina combined this year to complete on average 60% of their passes for 14 TDs and 6 INTs, at 7.0 YPA.
His stats look almost identical against South Carolina this year as Charleston Southern's QB.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:59 pm to RD Dawg
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Quintin Harris has 12 TDs at Duke. Are the Duke receivers elite?
Did you just compare a Duke QB in the ACC to Jake Fromm in the SEC? God almighty.
This is absurd, man. Duke has worse talent than almost every P5 team they play, and UGA is significantly better talent wise than anybody on the schedule. Just to make you happy, why not eliminate the best D Fromm has played and then compare stas? Doesn't get any better. Excuse
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What? Landers is complete garbage along with Simmons and who exactly is our stud TE? Doesn't it give you some type of clue to the quality of our receiving group when our best WR and TE our both grad transfers?
We have 3 recievers on NFL rosters from last year's team.We'll have ZERO upperclassmen that will make NFL rosters from this receiving group including D-Rob
Cager and D-Rob are NFL guys, and you don't have to be an upperclassman to produce. D-Rob proved that as a freshman. Blaylock and Pickens are both NFL guys. Why single out Landers who is the worst of the 6 receivers in the rotation and Simmons coming off his worst game to make your point? There are 4 other options. Another weak excuse.
Brings me back to my original question. Why do folks like to coddle Fromm? He doesn't need it. We're 7 games in and he is clearly not having his best year, so what's wrong with stating that fact? I believe he has the ability to turn it around, but numbers are numbers are numbers.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:01 pm to RandySavage
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He's a somewhere between a game manager and game changer. Really good college QB in a system where he doesn't have to be the man because of all the talent around him. Very similar to David Greene and Aaron Murray.
I have to unfortunately admit that a Barner made an intelligent post. I'd take Fields over Fromm all day and Fromm over Eason all day. Also, Burrow>Tua>Fromm>Trask>Nix
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:03 pm to John Milner
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Yes, I realize it isn't that simple, but if Smart had given Fields ample playing time, and the entire playbook, with the understanding that the next season best man would win the job, I think Fields would have stayed.
No chance. Unfortunately, Fields was going to bolt if he wasnt the man. He had no business going to UGA in the first place, and I am darn happy we kept him from going to Florida.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:06 pm to bayou prince
If this was the old SEC with the QB level he’d be considered great but with who’s playing now he comes off as average and it’s a bit unfair. 10 yrs ago and Georgia with this team would be a tough out.
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