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Is the Big XII CCG model best?
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:18 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:18 am
Would the SEC be better off going with no divisions, top 2 teams play in Atlanta?
Not sure the best approach to scheduling, but one perma rival to preserve an annual rivalry and then evenly cycling through the other 12 opponents?
ETA - :inb4offseasonthread:
Not sure the best approach to scheduling, but one perma rival to preserve an annual rivalry and then evenly cycling through the other 12 opponents?
ETA - :inb4offseasonthread:
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 12:19 am
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:21 am to RogerTempleton
There is nothing wrong with either model, the only reason the SEC didn't get two teams into the playoff was because Georgia got fricked in the arse by LSU to the tune of 20 points.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:22 am to RogerTempleton
No, we clearly have the best model.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:23 am to Who is Your Daddy
Nothing to do with this year’s result. More to do with all the times where a weak division winner is playing in the CCG and is a game away from winning it.
Why should a 8-4 or 7-5 unranked team for a play conference title? The Big XII might have it right with the top 2 teams overall.
Why should a 8-4 or 7-5 unranked team for a play conference title? The Big XII might have it right with the top 2 teams overall.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:24 am to RogerTempleton
The divisional model works best when the divisions are balanced.
When the divisions are woefully unbalanced, the divisional model sucks.
When the divisions are woefully unbalanced, the divisional model sucks.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:31 am to PEPE
Case in point, the Big 10. What a woefully unbalanced divisional split they have.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:38 am to DownUnderTiger
I'd rather see a 9 game conference schedule without divisions. Every SEC player with a full career should be able to play in every SEC stadium. But that's unrealistic until there's an 8 team playoff with an automatic power 5 conference championship winner spot.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:53 am to RogerTempleton
Here are the upsets in conference title games. Games that kept a team out of a potential national championship game are in bold.
SEC
1994: #6 Florida over #3 Alabama
1999: #7 Alabama over #5 Florida
2001: #21 LSU over #2 Tennessee
2005: #13 Georgia over #3 LSU
2008: #2 Florida over #1 Alabama
Big 12
1996: UR t.u. over #3 Nebraska
1998: #10 Texas A&M over #2 Kansas State
2001: #9 Colorado over #3 t.u.
2003: #13 Kansas State over #1 Oklahoma (It SHOULD have)
*2007: #9 Oklahoma over #1 Missouri (OU was actually favored)
Big Ten
2012: UR Wisconsin over #12 Nebraska
2013: #10 Michigan State over #2 Ohio State
2016: #8 Penn State over #6 Wisconsin
*2017: #8 Ohio State over #3 Wisconsin (OSU was favored)
ACC
2005: #22 Florida State over #5 Virginia Tech
2008: #25 Virginia Tech over #16 Boston College
2011: #21 Clemson over #5 Virginia Tech
The PAC 12 favorite has won every title game
SEC
1994: #6 Florida over #3 Alabama
1999: #7 Alabama over #5 Florida
2001: #21 LSU over #2 Tennessee
2005: #13 Georgia over #3 LSU
2008: #2 Florida over #1 Alabama
Big 12
1996: UR t.u. over #3 Nebraska
1998: #10 Texas A&M over #2 Kansas State
2001: #9 Colorado over #3 t.u.
2003: #13 Kansas State over #1 Oklahoma (It SHOULD have)
*2007: #9 Oklahoma over #1 Missouri (OU was actually favored)
Big Ten
2012: UR Wisconsin over #12 Nebraska
2013: #10 Michigan State over #2 Ohio State
2016: #8 Penn State over #6 Wisconsin
*2017: #8 Ohio State over #3 Wisconsin (OSU was favored)
ACC
2005: #22 Florida State over #5 Virginia Tech
2008: #25 Virginia Tech over #16 Boston College
2011: #21 Clemson over #5 Virginia Tech
The PAC 12 favorite has won every title game
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 1:55 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:45 am to RogerTempleton
No. If you already play everybody yearly...WHY repeat that game?
Also, if Team A wins the reg. game & Team B the rematch...who should go?
Also, if Team A wins the reg. game & Team B the rematch...who should go?
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 5:47 am
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:56 am to RogerTempleton
The B12 model is horrible. It is very difficult to beat anyone twice if the teams are relatively even. You are more likely to get someone knocked out of the playoffs than in.
OU had a lot more offense than Texass and were able to pull it off this year. Had OU beat Texass in the first meeting I think OU probably loses in the CG and B12 are out of CFP.
OU had a lot more offense than Texass and were able to pull it off this year. Had OU beat Texass in the first meeting I think OU probably loses in the CG and B12 are out of CFP.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:33 am to DownUnderTiger
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What a woefully unbalanced divisional split they have.
They all really suck
Name one B1G team not named Ohio State that has played in a BCS or CFP Championship game?
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:38 am to RogerTempleton
Exactly, Mizzou playing in two conference title games is enough evidence that you don't always get the two best teams.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:15 am to RogerTempleton
Anyone who has ever even once complained about Bama's 2011 NC should consider the Big XII CCG model the worst thing ever to happen.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:28 am to TheTideMustRoll
It sucks....yes it just happened to work this year.
But in other years the best team will have to beat the second best team twice.
That just sucks.
But in other years the best team will have to beat the second best team twice.
That just sucks.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:30 am to RogerTempleton
Yea, but we have to kick 4 teams out so we can play a round robin.
Welp, think we know who those 4 are.
Welp, think we know who those 4 are.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:31 am to RogerTempleton
We did that anyway, right?
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, but we have to kick 4 teams out so we can play a round robin.
Welp, think we know who those 4 are.
Really only three since LSU has already volunteered.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:38 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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2012: UR Wisconsin over #12 Nebraska
2013: #10 Michigan State over #2 Ohio State
2016: #8 Penn State over #6 Wisconsin
*2017: #8 Ohio State over #3 Wisconsin (OSU was favored)
2014 was the year the Big Ten screwed up their championship game.
Big 10 divisions, prior to 2014:
Michigan
Michigan St.
Northwestern
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Ohio State
Penn State
Illinois
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin.
Since 2014:
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
Indiana
Nebraska
Iowa
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Indiana
Purdue
No surprise that the West has yet to win a game since they realigned.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:40 am to RogerTempleton
I say play everyone and at the end of the year the team with the best record is conference champ.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:15 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Then how many conferences are you going to have & how many members?
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