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re: Is Tua overrated?

Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:03 am to
Tua is still the truth - didn't he a good game. People will try to overanalyze him and his mindset though
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12233 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:03 am to
Played hurt against all those good defenses.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:05 am to
When given time, and he's healthy, Tua is the best QB in the country. Georgia did a fantastic job putting more pressure on him than he has seen before, and while his injury wasn't enough to keep him off the field, it did make some difference in his ability to escape pressure.

Let's see how he does in the playoffs. If he continues to struggle, then maybe it's because of the defense. But I think LSU was enough to show me he can handle tough defenses.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:12 am to
Going into last night’s game, Tua had the highest QBR in the history of college football. That indicates to me that he might not be overrated. Now Georgia played a great game against him, no doubt. Too bad it wasn’t enough.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:15 am to
Another overreaction thread about one game played by a true sophomore QB playing as a starter in his first full year.

If he didn't have the drops, he would have had another 100 yards probably. So, this is a silly thread.

This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:17 am to
He's an absolutely elite, special QB when he has some time in the pocket.

When he gets hit in the mouth a few times, he clearly is a totally different player.

Lucky for him, Bama has the best OL in the country.
Posted by Bamad
Calera, AL
Member since May 2010
5211 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:17 am to
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He’s not overrated he’s just soft



So soft that he out ran your entire sorry, fricking defense on a hurt knee.

Have fun with the shite bowl game your shite team is going to.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Let's see how he does in the playoffs. If he continues to struggle, then maybe it's because of the defense.


OU has an Ole Miss quality defense.

Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17287 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:22 am to
He had 4 passes dropped in the first quarter. After that I thought we were sunk.
Fromm was the truth and it takes a qb playing like Payton to beat us.
We found a way. Saban still has that horse shoe up his arse.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9455 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:22 am to
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Nobody held Alabama to less yards than Mississippi State defense.


True. I said during the MSU game that Bama wouldn't play a better defense all season including the playoffs.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:24 am to
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When he gets hit in the mouth a few times, he clearly is a totally different player. 


Well I'll be damned, that's exactly what they say about Brady as well. You is really really really dumb.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:26 am to
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But I think LSU was enough to show me he can handle tough defenses.


Bama played an unreal game against LSU. But if you zero in on Tua's stats, they were fairly pedestrian:

He was 25/42 (59.5%) with 295 Yards Passing, 2 TD and 1 INT. Averaged 7.02 yards/attempt.

Decent, but nothing spectacular.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:28 am to
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Another overreaction thread about one game played by a true sophomore QB


It's not just one game.

He only threw for 164 yards against MSU, and he had 1 TD and 1 INT.

He through under 60% against LSU, with 2 TD / 1 INT.

Now the performance against Georgia.

This is not an overreaction to one game. It's the realization that against the three best defenses he's faced, he's not had a single stellar performance. Are we overreacting to three games? Is that a thing now?
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:29 am to
A little. He’s also made of glass which won’t fly even in today’s NFL.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:29 am to
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Well I'll be damned, that's exactly what they say about Brady as well. You is really really really dumb.



Not really.

Brady gets knocked on his arse and gets up and wins Super Bowls.

Let's not even use that guys name in this thread anymore.

Tua wasn't hit much or pressured all year, and when he was, he played much worse. He won't always have the best offensive line in football protecting him. Some guys respond to pressure and hard hits by elevating their game.

Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19090 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:33 am to
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Or has he become really greedy in trying for the big play on every

I think that is part of it. Ryan Mallet had the same issue. A 50/50 25 yard out was more appealing to him than a 99/1 5 yard dump down to an open back.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13312 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:37 am to
Well Qbs usually don’t “light up” good defenses, hence that is why they are good defenses. Tua is plenty good. One bad game out of 13 doesn’t change that . Saw on Twitter that counting yesterday, he has only played the equivalent of 9 and half games . He is fine.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9719 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:37 am to
No, Tua is hurt. Has been all year.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Well Qbs usually don’t “light up” good defenses, hence that is why they are good defenses.


Well if they are advertised as one of the best QBs to ever play the game, they do. That's the entire point.

quote:

One bad game out of 13 doesn’t change that .


Three decent to bad games against the three best defenses you face does raise questions.

Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:43 am to
Bama's OL isn't that great. They are just allowed to hold all game
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