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Was it Smart and his staff or did the pieces fall into place?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:58 am
Georgia had an excellent season last year and did better than most expected almost winning a NC.
Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
Georgia fans, how do you feel about this question?
Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
Georgia fans, how do you feel about this question?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:00 pm to Rillo
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
Coaching for sure, Richt had the "right roster" many times but couldn't get over the hump.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:01 pm to Rillo
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Oh boy.
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:02 pm to Rillo
I feel like it was a bit of both. Kirby obviously came in put it all together and is recruiting like gangbusters. That said, because the mainstream UGA discourse, at least on the message boards, has become so vehemently anti-Richt, I think that most people forget that most of last year's great players (Chubb, Michel, Roquan, etc) were Richt's players. Smart has been able to finally not do less with more.
The way we are recruiting, I hope this trend will continue.
ETA: With 2018 being Kirby's third year, a lion's share of this year's starters will be Kirby's recruits. I think that this year we will see that Kirby Smart is not Terry Bowden, winning his first 20 games with Pat Dye's players and then falling off when they all graduate.
The way we are recruiting, I hope this trend will continue.
ETA: With 2018 being Kirby's third year, a lion's share of this year's starters will be Kirby's recruits. I think that this year we will see that Kirby Smart is not Terry Bowden, winning his first 20 games with Pat Dye's players and then falling off when they all graduate.
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:04 pm to Rillo
Fair question, and probably a little of both.
The "great coaching" would be more about bringing some energy and toughness post CMR- not like SOS's arrival at UF where he literally changed the way football is played in the SEC.
But Kirby did inherit some really talented dudes who also were total team guys. Last years SR class was not only crazy talented, but legit good kids. That was probably a bit lucky....although one could argue coaching had something to do with that as well.
The "great coaching" would be more about bringing some energy and toughness post CMR- not like SOS's arrival at UF where he literally changed the way football is played in the SEC.
But Kirby did inherit some really talented dudes who also were total team guys. Last years SR class was not only crazy talented, but legit good kids. That was probably a bit lucky....although one could argue coaching had something to do with that as well.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:04 pm to Rillo
Uses capitalization, don't think this one is Phan.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:06 pm to Rillo
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
I think it was both. The main cogs were mark Richt players,(Exception of Fromm and Thomas) but make no mistake about it, Smart is recruiting at a high level. Also, Richt had some excellent players and just couldn't get over the hump.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:08 pm to Rillo
Sam Pittman is the difference for the offense.
Kirby/Mel Tucker was the difference for the defense.
It is the coaching for 2 reasons...
1) they can scheme and adjust.
2) they are recruiting ninjas.
Smart brought Fromm. That saved the season.
Pittman brought Andrew Thomas. Coached up a DL to be our Center. Coached up a very good LG into an All American LT.
Kirby/Mel Tucker was the difference for the defense.
It is the coaching for 2 reasons...
1) they can scheme and adjust.
2) they are recruiting ninjas.
Smart brought Fromm. That saved the season.
Pittman brought Andrew Thomas. Coached up a DL to be our Center. Coached up a very good LG into an All American LT.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:08 pm to Rillo
Him fixing a few things that Richt didn't. It will take Richt's players being gone to see the flaws in Smarts coaching and development.
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:11 pm to Rillo
both. It was great coaching and a solid roster. There wasn't some magic formula.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:13 pm to Rillo
Looked like both to me.
They're about to be so talented that they can't NOT win a championship(even multiple).
They're about to be so talented that they can't NOT win a championship(even multiple).
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:31 pm to Rillo
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Georgia had an excellent season last year and did better than most expected almost winning a NC.
Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
Georgia fans, how do you feel about this question?
IMO UGA should ALWAYS be in the MNC hunt. Our state puts out an average of 35 4 star players per year which is "nipping at the heels" of the big three in recruiting(Texas, Florida, and California). And who are the other in state colleges competing for these "in state" players (GA Tech, GA Southern, GA State)? Really???
A lot of these players Georgia recruits grew up Dawg fans and have lots of family members who are Dawg fans. The pressure to go play for the state school is there.
Bottom line, UGA needs to recruit its state successfully and it will win. It also needs a hard working competent head coach. Mark Richt wasn't it. I think Kirby is.
So last years success, to me, wasn't a "one off" thing. We should expect to be there.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:50 pm to Rillo
Look at the difference in Kirby's first year and his second year. You can see that he's changing the culture. And bringing in studs at every position. It took a minute to wake everybody up from the Richt sleep walking days, but I think he's going in the right direction
Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:45 pm to Rillo
There was already talent in place, but the program needed a fresh voice. It had gone stale under Richt. Both parties needed a change of scenery.
Also, Sam Pittman's work on the offensive line was a big part of last season. Richt rarely had line play that good.
Also, Sam Pittman's work on the offensive line was a big part of last season. Richt rarely had line play that good.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:46 pm to Rillo
It’s both.
Very few Coaches win without all the right pieces and pieces rarely al fall into place all on their own.
Very few Coaches win without all the right pieces and pieces rarely al fall into place all on their own.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:43 pm to Rillo
I heard from a UGA fan that they have already started a dynasty even though they haven't won anything since before the internet happened.
I also heard They will sign every recruit in the world even those from fictitious places like that world that Thor is from in the Avenger movies.
I heard their WR's would all start for the Dallas cowboys, and break all their franchise receiving records in half a season.
I also heard They will sign every recruit in the world even those from fictitious places like that world that Thor is from in the Avenger movies.
I heard their WR's would all start for the Dallas cowboys, and break all their franchise receiving records in half a season.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:59 pm to Rillo
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?
Goes hand in hand. A lil bit of that, a lil bit of this.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:07 pm to Rillo
UGA will be good often, great every now and then. Never a consistant national player.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:38 pm to Rillo
Last season would not have been as successful without Chubb, Michel, Bellamy and Carter. All four of them staying for their senior season was huge, both in terms of production and in terms of leadership.
All four were Richt recruited players who played two years under Richt.
IMHO, if Richt was still HC at Georgia after an 8-5 2016, I don't believe that any of the four would have been at Georgia in 2017. So in that sense, some if not all of them were in fact Kirby players, who wouldn't have been on the roster if the predecessor was still there.
All four were Richt recruited players who played two years under Richt.
IMHO, if Richt was still HC at Georgia after an 8-5 2016, I don't believe that any of the four would have been at Georgia in 2017. So in that sense, some if not all of them were in fact Kirby players, who wouldn't have been on the roster if the predecessor was still there.
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