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Was it Smart and his staff or did the pieces fall into place?

Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by Rillo
Member since Aug 2018
605 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:58 am
Georgia had an excellent season last year and did better than most expected almost winning a NC.

Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?

Georgia fans, how do you feel about this question?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?


Coaching for sure, Richt had the "right roster" many times but couldn't get over the hump.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49188 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Oh boy.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2874 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:02 pm to
I feel like it was a bit of both. Kirby obviously came in put it all together and is recruiting like gangbusters. That said, because the mainstream UGA discourse, at least on the message boards, has become so vehemently anti-Richt, I think that most people forget that most of last year's great players (Chubb, Michel, Roquan, etc) were Richt's players. Smart has been able to finally not do less with more.
The way we are recruiting, I hope this trend will continue.

ETA: With 2018 being Kirby's third year, a lion's share of this year's starters will be Kirby's recruits. I think that this year we will see that Kirby Smart is not Terry Bowden, winning his first 20 games with Pat Dye's players and then falling off when they all graduate.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted by YHCDawg
Winder, GA
Member since Aug 2004
536 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:04 pm to
Yes
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:04 pm to
Fair question, and probably a little of both.

The "great coaching" would be more about bringing some energy and toughness post CMR- not like SOS's arrival at UF where he literally changed the way football is played in the SEC.

But Kirby did inherit some really talented dudes who also were total team guys. Last years SR class was not only crazy talented, but legit good kids. That was probably a bit lucky....although one could argue coaching had something to do with that as well.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:04 pm to
Uses capitalization, don't think this one is Phan.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59020 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?

I think it was both. The main cogs were mark Richt players,(Exception of Fromm and Thomas) but make no mistake about it, Smart is recruiting at a high level. Also, Richt had some excellent players and just couldn't get over the hump.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:08 pm to
Sam Pittman is the difference for the offense.

Kirby/Mel Tucker was the difference for the defense.

It is the coaching for 2 reasons...
1) they can scheme and adjust.
2) they are recruiting ninjas.

Smart brought Fromm. That saved the season.
Pittman brought Andrew Thomas. Coached up a DL to be our Center. Coached up a very good LG into an All American LT.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13374 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:08 pm to
Him fixing a few things that Richt didn't. It will take Richt's players being gone to see the flaws in Smarts coaching and development.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86620 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:11 pm to
both. It was great coaching and a solid roster. There wasn't some magic formula.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83852 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:13 pm to
Looked like both to me.

They're about to be so talented that they can't NOT win a championship(even multiple).
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5072 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Georgia had an excellent season last year and did better than most expected almost winning a NC.

Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?

Georgia fans, how do you feel about this question?


IMO UGA should ALWAYS be in the MNC hunt. Our state puts out an average of 35 4 star players per year which is "nipping at the heels" of the big three in recruiting(Texas, Florida, and California). And who are the other in state colleges competing for these "in state" players (GA Tech, GA Southern, GA State)? Really???

A lot of these players Georgia recruits grew up Dawg fans and have lots of family members who are Dawg fans. The pressure to go play for the state school is there.

Bottom line, UGA needs to recruit its state successfully and it will win. It also needs a hard working competent head coach. Mark Richt wasn't it. I think Kirby is.

So last years success, to me, wasn't a "one off" thing. We should expect to be there.
Posted by TouchdownToCauseHell
Member since Apr 2018
568 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 12:50 pm to
Look at the difference in Kirby's first year and his second year. You can see that he's changing the culture. And bringing in studs at every position. It took a minute to wake everybody up from the Richt sleep walking days, but I think he's going in the right direction
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45251 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:45 pm to
There was already talent in place, but the program needed a fresh voice. It had gone stale under Richt. Both parties needed a change of scenery.

Also, Sam Pittman's work on the offensive line was a big part of last season. Richt rarely had line play that good.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 1:46 pm to
It’s both.

Very few Coaches win without all the right pieces and pieces rarely al fall into place all on their own.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
6849 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:43 pm to
I heard from a UGA fan that they have already started a dynasty even though they haven't won anything since before the internet happened.

I also heard They will sign every recruit in the world even those from fictitious places like that world that Thor is from in the Avenger movies.

I heard their WR's would all start for the Dallas cowboys, and break all their franchise receiving records in half a season.




Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33184 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:59 pm to
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Was Georgia’s success last season great coaching or did they just have the right roster at the right time?


Goes hand in hand. A lil bit of that, a lil bit of this.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9806 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:07 pm to
UGA will be good often, great every now and then. Never a consistant national player.
Posted by Dawgalways
Anchorage, AK
Member since Dec 2012
64 posts
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:38 pm to
Last season would not have been as successful without Chubb, Michel, Bellamy and Carter. All four of them staying for their senior season was huge, both in terms of production and in terms of leadership.

All four were Richt recruited players who played two years under Richt.

IMHO, if Richt was still HC at Georgia after an 8-5 2016, I don't believe that any of the four would have been at Georgia in 2017. So in that sense, some if not all of them were in fact Kirby players, who wouldn't have been on the roster if the predecessor was still there.
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