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VanDarius Cowan dismissed by Saban
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:29 am
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University of Alabama freshman linebacker VanDarius Cowan has been dismissed from the football team for a violation of team rules, according to an announcement Monday from the UA athletics department.
"VanDarius has been dismissed from the team and is no longer a part of our football program due to a violation of team rules," Coach Nick Saban said in the statement Monday morning. "Each of us has a responsibility to represent The University of Alabama in a first-class way, and failure to meet those standards can't be tolerated. We wish VanDarius the very best in the future."
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:32 am to TJGator1215
Screwed up in high school, screwed up in academics, screwed up punching a guy at a bar
I'm a big proponent of giving guys 2nd chances because the alternative is generally the end of their one shot to pull their family out of poverty, but 3 strikes? Sorry man, bye.
I'm a big proponent of giving guys 2nd chances because the alternative is generally the end of their one shot to pull their family out of poverty, but 3 strikes? Sorry man, bye.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:32 am to TJGator1215
Time to find a JUCO, quick
East Mississippi C.C., look out, incoming
East Mississippi C.C., look out, incoming
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:33 am to TJGator1215
must not have been a starter since it was just misdemeanor assault
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:33 am to TJGator1215
Alright Gumps, what’d he do?
And Auburn, how do you feel about the prospects of a 2019 LB corps that features Cowan and Pappoe?
And Auburn, how do you feel about the prospects of a 2019 LB corps that features Cowan and Pappoe?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:35 am to TJGator1215
Cowan was given multiple chances to change his course in life. I hope he figures it out soon.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:35 am to tylerdurden24
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Auburn, how do you feel about the prospects of a 2019 LB corps that features Cowan and Pappoe?
The Pappoe butthurt may rival Nick Fairley for the mutts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:36 am to TJGator1215
Guy must not be any good if Nick ain't looking the other way
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:36 am to TJGator1215
Does he get to keep the Challenger throughout the remainder of the lease?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm a big proponent of giving guys 2nd chances because the alternative is generally the end of their one shot to pull their family out of poverty, but 3 strikes? Sorry man, bye.
I agree. That;s why I usually do not criticize Auburn for taking on players other programs have kicked off the team.
However, this is what I don't understand about many on the Rant. They like to criticize Alabama and say Saban covers up indiscretions for top players. But Cowan was a high 4* player .966 rating, and Saban kicked him off the team. Say what you will, but it couldn't have been easy to kick off a player with that kind of talent.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:38 am to jvilletiger25
My acknowledging that Pappoe will be playing for Auburn in 2019 is butthurt?
You sure I’m the sensitive one here?
You sure I’m the sensitive one here?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:40 am to jvilletiger25
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The Pappoe butthurt may rival Nick Fairley for the mutts
It hurts, no doubt! Y'all got a good one, for sure. Wish we could have reeled him in, but it is what it is.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:40 am to DawgsLife
If they're decent people that make a couple of mistakes, Saban tries to keep them and get their mind right. If they're hopeless frickups, they gone.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:42 am to TJGator1215
Rules are rules. When a kid rejects the offer of a new car, that’s a blatant sign of disrespect, in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:43 am to DawgsLife
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But Cowan was a high 4* player .966 rating, and Saban kicked him off the team. Say what you will, but it couldn't have been easy to kick off a player with that kind of talent.
You can criticize him and say it's wrong or he makes bad judgements, but Saban generally decides whether a kid has a "good heart" or not in these types of decisions. Geno Smith fricked up multiple times, including 2 DUIs. I like Geno and think he's a good kid, but IMHO if you do that twice you forfeit your right to stick around. Saban liked Geno, thought he just fricked up, and decided to keep him around.
Other kids fricked up twice and got shown the door, like Cowan. Most of the time, if you read up on the kid, the ones who are quickly shown the door have been in constant troubled waters since the moment they arrived (Cowan is in this group) and have non-legal issues in addition to whatever legal stuff they have (academics, in the doghouse in terms of effort and focus, etc).
I dunno if it is right or wrong, but his methods are pretty clear at this point, and I don't think it is really "is the kid important as a player" or not. That doesn't mean he doesn't weigh that sometimes, because I'm sure he does, but I think his general framework for making these decisions is based in his judgement of a kids work ethic and overall character. If he thinks it is outside a kids normal character, he gives the kid chances to make it right (sometimes more than I would). If he's decided they basically made a bad recruiting judgement and the kid is just not what they thought as a person, they move on.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:45 am to Teague
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If they're decent people that make a couple of mistakes, Saban tries to keep them and get their mind right. If they're hopeless frickups, they gone.
I don't have a problem with that.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:47 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Does he get to keep the Challenger throughout the remainder of the lease?
I think you mean Charger and no he has to return it now.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:49 am to craigbiggio
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Guy must not be any good if Nick ain't looking the other way
He was in line for a lot of playing time this year given how thin we are at ILB. He's been given multiple chances in life dating back to HS. I'm glad Saban actually put his foot down. No team vote for punching a dude in the face.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:50 am to TJGator1215
He must not have been expected to do much at Bama and he’s been processed already.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Geno Smith fricked up multiple times, including 2 DUIs. I like Geno and think he's a good kid, but IMHO if you do that twice you forfeit your right to stick around. Saban liked Geno, thought he just fricked up, and decided to keep him around.
You have to keep in mind that you are dealing with 19-22 year old kids with a lot of pressure on them from a performance on the field perspective to the classroom. They see other kids going out and doing stuff, and they want to fit in and do those things, too.
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I dunno if it is right or wrong, but his methods are pretty clear at this point, and I don't think it is really "is the kid important as a player" or not. That doesn't mean he doesn't weigh that sometimes, because I'm sure he does, but I think his general framework for making these decisions is based in his judgement of a kids work ethic and overall character.
All of these issues should come into play. As a coach he has to make sure his team performs with the best players possible. but the coach also has to consider if the kid is leading other players astray, and/or setting a bad example for others. It all has to factor in. It's probably the toughest part of a coaches job.
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