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Is UT really a better job than MS State?
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:39 am
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:39 am
State is returning a better team.
UT doesn’t have built-in recruiting advantages now that UGA is rising.
State has nice facilities.
Both have to play Bama each year.
Neyland stadium is larger.
Knoxville is more metropolitan than Starkville...but so is Hattiesburg.
UT has more tradition, but times have changed.
Vols have the advantage if now cowbells.
Tough call...
UT doesn’t have built-in recruiting advantages now that UGA is rising.
State has nice facilities.
Both have to play Bama each year.
Neyland stadium is larger.
Knoxville is more metropolitan than Starkville...but so is Hattiesburg.
UT has more tradition, but times have changed.
Vols have the advantage if now cowbells.
Tough call...
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
UT would actually have to play Bama twice in a year to win an SEC title. Who wants to have to beat them twice?
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:43 am to Eli Goldfinger
Ms state celebrates 10 win seasons.
Tenner feels entitled to 10 win seasons.
Ms state was last ranked #1 in the polls 3 years ago, Tenner? Two decades ago.
Tenner feels entitled to 10 win seasons.
Ms state was last ranked #1 in the polls 3 years ago, Tenner? Two decades ago.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
Tennessee is a top 5 SEC job. State is a bottom 5 SEC job.
Try harder.
Try harder.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:44 am to Eli Goldfinger
tMSU is on the rise. With OM about to go into a 10 year hibernation, the banking industry will shift towards Starkville building condos and revitalization of the city and stadium.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 7:45 am to AllUrCrootsRBlong2Us
Based on?
The actual data and facts would suggest they are closer to peers currently, with ms state being the superior at the current date.
The actual data and facts would suggest they are closer to peers currently, with ms state being the superior at the current date.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:11 am to Prof
Thanks I'll forward this to CDM just in case.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:18 am to Eli Goldfinger
UT has the history on their side. But in my opinion, a good job is only as good as it's job security. I'll take top 15 money and know I have a job tomorrow over somewhere with "history" and get fired mid-season. Mullen has Mississippi State as competitive as we've seen.
I know the topic is ceiling, but he hasn't reached it. People must forget what a dumpster fire Croom left. That takes time to change.
I know the topic is ceiling, but he hasn't reached it. People must forget what a dumpster fire Croom left. That takes time to change.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:19 am to Eli Goldfinger
I'd prefer UT just for the sake of being able to live in the Smokies/Cherokee. Plus, expectations at UT are a little lower than in Starkville at this point.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:20 am to AllUrCrootsRBlong2Us
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Tennessee is a top 5 SEC job. State is a bottom 5 SEC job.
This may have been true 20+ years ago...
Not so much today...I personally don't consider UT a top 5 SEC program anymore
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
There will only be troll responses but clearly Tennessee is a superior job and not even close. Recruiting territory, storied history, facilities, fan base and stadium.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:41 am to PorkRoast
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I know the topic is ceiling, but he hasn't reached it. People must forget what a dumpster fire Croom left. That takes time to change.
Croom hasn't been there in like a decade, recruits today probably do not even remember him being there.
Time isn't on your side in this argument.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
no it is not.Look at the last 3 hire's made by ut,uf and who lsu hired.Coaches,i think are starting to realize why deal with crazy arse fan's that throw a hissy fit if they don't win it all every year,when they can become multi-millionaire's with less stress at ,msu,ole miss,usce type jobs.5.5 million goes a long way in North Miss.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:45 am to I Bleed Garnet
State has better facilities, better job security, and Mullen can make the same in Starkville as he can in Knoxville, unless UT thinks he's a $8 million coach.
In the CFP era, which is the era we exist, Mississippi State is a top 15 team, and has a good chance to enter the top 10 of the all-time CFP rankings by season's end. Using the 25-24 ... 1 method, here is an aggregate of all of the CFP polls to date.
Rank Team Total Points
1 Alabama 527
2 Ohio St 435
3 Clemson 400
4 Oklahoma 310
5 FSU 303
6 TCU 272
7 Michigan St 256
8 Wisconsin 233
9 Baylor 232
10 Auburn 230
11 Notre Dame 225
12 Michigan 209
13 OK State 205
14 Mississippi State 204
15 Oregon 196
16 Washington 167
17 Georgia 159
18 Ole Miss 156
19 Penn St 154
20 LSU 145
21 Utah 142
22 Stanford 134
23 Iowa 130
24 Florida 127
25 USC 123
26 Louisville 118
27 Kansas St 109
28 UCLA 99
29 Arizona 98
30 Arizona St 95
31 Colorado 92
32 Nebraska 78
33 North Carolina 70
34 West Virginia 65
35 Miami 58
36 Northwestern 58
37 Georgia Tech 53
38 Texas A&M 50
39 Va Tech 48
40 Navy 46
41 Western Mich 38
42 Mizzou 37
43 Washington St 37
44 Memphis 35
45 Boise St 33
46 Houston 33
47 Tennessee 29
48 UCF 27
49 Temple 17
50 Iowa St 16
51 NC State 16
52 Duke 11
53 Minnesota 11
54 Pittsburgh 4
55 Toledo 4
56 East Carolina 3
57 Marshall 2
58 Arkansas 1
In the CFP era, which is the era we exist, Mississippi State is a top 15 team, and has a good chance to enter the top 10 of the all-time CFP rankings by season's end. Using the 25-24 ... 1 method, here is an aggregate of all of the CFP polls to date.
Rank Team Total Points
1 Alabama 527
2 Ohio St 435
3 Clemson 400
4 Oklahoma 310
5 FSU 303
6 TCU 272
7 Michigan St 256
8 Wisconsin 233
9 Baylor 232
10 Auburn 230
11 Notre Dame 225
12 Michigan 209
13 OK State 205
14 Mississippi State 204
15 Oregon 196
16 Washington 167
17 Georgia 159
18 Ole Miss 156
19 Penn St 154
20 LSU 145
21 Utah 142
22 Stanford 134
23 Iowa 130
24 Florida 127
25 USC 123
26 Louisville 118
27 Kansas St 109
28 UCLA 99
29 Arizona 98
30 Arizona St 95
31 Colorado 92
32 Nebraska 78
33 North Carolina 70
34 West Virginia 65
35 Miami 58
36 Northwestern 58
37 Georgia Tech 53
38 Texas A&M 50
39 Va Tech 48
40 Navy 46
41 Western Mich 38
42 Mizzou 37
43 Washington St 37
44 Memphis 35
45 Boise St 33
46 Houston 33
47 Tennessee 29
48 UCF 27
49 Temple 17
50 Iowa St 16
51 NC State 16
52 Duke 11
53 Minnesota 11
54 Pittsburgh 4
55 Toledo 4
56 East Carolina 3
57 Marshall 2
58 Arkansas 1
Posted on 11/23/17 at 8:45 am to PorkRoast
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People must forget what a dumpster fire Croom left.
Sly Croom hasn't been there since 2008....
It takes that long to clean up that "dumpster fire?"
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