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re: Is UT really a better job than MS State?

Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:24 am to
Posted by OnTheLevel State Fan
Member since Jul 2017
871 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:24 am to
then why do y'all suck in everything but women's hoops
Posted by rebsfan10
Member since Dec 2013
1564 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:26 am to
tMSU is on the rise. With OM about to go into a 10 year hibernation, the banking industry will shift towards Starkville building condos and revitalization of the city and stadium.

You clearly are in neither banking or real estate.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:27 am to
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What advantages does State have over Tennessee outside of Dan Mullen?



Far better hygiene
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15808 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:27 am to
quote:

then why do y'all suck in everything but women's hoops


Two shitty Athletic Directors in Mike Hamilton and Dave Hart. Both of which are now gone.

Next question.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:27 am to
Yes, it can be.

The recruiting is many levels better.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9759 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:28 am to
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Prove it. What advantages does State have over Tennessee outside of Dan Mullen? The truth hurts.


They are in Starkville. JK LOL. That was hard to say with a straight face.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

What advantages does State have over Tennessee outside of Dan Mullen?


Why are you so concerned? After all, you guys claim that you don't want Mullen.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
59439 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:30 am to
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a legend or his he satisfied with being a hero in Starkville?

What is Bill Snyder considered?
Posted by OnTheLevel State Fan
Member since Jul 2017
871 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:32 am to
always a excuse,the ad sucks,the coach sucks,maybe ut just sucks.Y'all got all these advantages and ain't won the east since 98
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:32 am to
In-state recruiting.

You vastly overestimate the differences in facilities. MSU's weightroom is top notch and premium seating offers more options for fans.

I could show you some areas around Starkville that you would like to own property.



Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15808 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:33 am to
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Why are you so concerned? After all, you guys claim that you don't want Mullen.



I'm calling your posters out on the delusion and out right lies that they brought up earlier in this thread with statements like "State has better football facilities and recruits better than UT"

Both of those statements are not true. And I'm going to keep calling you on it when it's said.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:34 am to
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is this 0-8 record in the SEC for 2017 somehow evidence of the program being in better shape than before Butch got there? help me understand

I aready covered that. Sorry, if you can't understand it.

Btw, maybe you should change your handle to something less ridiculous.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6283 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:37 am to
MSU and Tennessee are both developmental programs. UT just hasn't accepted it yet. They are never going to be a program that reloads and competes every year. They are now a program that will compete when they have veteran team and Jr or Sr QB.

2016 was their year to really compete, but the injuries and Botch's incompetence were too much to overcome.

MSU is the same level of program. They develop players and when Dak was a JR and Senior they competed.

Tennessee has a bigger budget and brand, but they are the same caliber of job.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69892 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:37 am to
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UT's program is in way better shape now than it was then.




Indeed


It's like this board either just completely forgot about the Kiffin debacle or is just unbelievably ignorant of the impact of a coach leaving your program 2 weeks before signing day.


The night that it happened, I said that he set our program back a minimum of 5 years, and that's if we made a good hire.

Hamilton panicked and took Dooley because nobody else worth a shite would touch us with a 10 ft pole in the wake of Hurricane Lane, except for Cutcliff, and Hamilton wasn't willing to let Cutcliff bring his Duke staff.


Dooley made a bad situation worse, but even in 2012, we were in position to get Gundy, but Hubbs leaked it before the season was over and Gundy backed out because Hubbs is a twat that got pictures of Gundy and Dave Hart meeting in Stillwater and couldn't sit on it for 2 weeks.

Days later, we had a signed MOU from Charlie Strong, it was a done deal, but Hart wanted to interview him one more time, and insisted that Strong come to Knoxville to do it. Strong backed out because of Hart's games.

Hart hired Butch because he was a "safe hire". And honestly, as much as I hate Butch Jones, it was probably the right move after we fricked up Gundy and Strong.

Hart was cheap, but in fairness, Hart had to be cheap because Hamilton plunged our Athletic Department into unprecedented debt.

We're in a much better position than we were 5 years ago, and an exponentially better position than we were 8 years ago.



Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15808 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:39 am to
quote:

In-state recruiting


Number of total blue chip players coming out of SEC states in the 2019 class using the 247 composite:

Tennessee: 19
Louisiana: 13
Alabama: 11
Mississippi: 11

Again, that's wrong.

quote:

You vastly overestimate the differences in facilities. MSU's weightroom is top notch and premium seating offers more options for fans. 


That's great. Have you ever even seen Tennessee's facilities before commenting on them? UT, LSU, Bama, Auburn etc all have better facilities than States. To include the weight room. Congrats on having better facilities than Ole Miss.

quote:

I could show you some areas around Starkville that you would like to own property. 



You could show me places in every state that I would buy land. What does that accomplish?
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69892 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:41 am to
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and ain't won the east since 98



Incorrect. We haven't won the SEC or National Championship since 1998.

You haven't won the West since 98, and haven't won the SEC since before indoor plumbing, and haven't won a National title in ANY team sport, EVER.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:42 am to
Yes UT is a better job and it’s not even close . State may be the worst job in the West .
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter!
Member since Aug 2011
17814 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:44 am to
Not right now Tenner is a dumpster fire
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:46 am to
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Btw, maybe you should change your handle to something less ridiculous.


ive already petitioned the board on how to change my nickname, several months ago. and I simply refuse to create another account after almost a decade just because SNITCH U and the rest of our conference brothers collaborated with the NCAA to destroy Ole Miss football....the basketball and baseball teams are still competitive. ~middle finger in the air~
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:52 am to
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Hart had to be cheap because Hamilton plunged our Athletic Department into unprecedented debt.
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