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How Would You Rank the All Time Football Programs in the SEC?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:26 pm
I came across Winsipedia's Ranking (not new) and wondered how everyone would rank. Do you think they got it right?
1. Alabama (3)
2. Tennessee (9)
3. Georgia (10)
4. LSU (11)
5. Auburn (14)
6. Florida (15)
7. Texas A&M (16)
8. Arkansas (27)
9. Ole Miss (33)
10. Missouri (36)
11. Kentucky (60)
12. South Carolina (61)
13. Mississippi St (63)
14. Vanderbilt (74)
1. Alabama (3)
2. Tennessee (9)
3. Georgia (10)
4. LSU (11)
5. Auburn (14)
6. Florida (15)
7. Texas A&M (16)
8. Arkansas (27)
9. Ole Miss (33)
10. Missouri (36)
11. Kentucky (60)
12. South Carolina (61)
13. Mississippi St (63)
14. Vanderbilt (74)
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:27 pm to Farmer1906
quote:
1. Alabama (3)
2. Tennessee (9)
3. Georgia (10)
4. LSU (11)
5. Auburn (14)
6. Florida (15)
7. Texas A&M (16)
8. Arkansas (27)
9. Ole Miss (33)
10. Missouri (36)
Big 10
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11. South Carolina (61)
12. Mississippi St (63)
13. Vanderbilt (74)
14. Kentucky (97)
Little 4
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:28 pm to Farmer1906
Really don't understand all the Georgia love
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:28 pm to Farmer1906
Looks good to me
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:28 pm to Farmer1906
I might rearrange 2-5 a bit but otherwise it looks about right.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:31 pm to Farmer1906
the obvious way:
alabama
tennesse
uga/uf/lsu/aub
OM
Ark
msu
kentucky
sc
vandy
didn't count the newbies for lack of sec history
alabama
tennesse
uga/uf/lsu/aub
OM
Ark
msu
kentucky
sc
vandy
didn't count the newbies for lack of sec history
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:31 pm to Farmer1906
How is Florida and LSU below Georgia?
Mizzou and Ole Miss are interchangeable, just depends on perspective
Kentucky should be above Vandy
Mizzou and Ole Miss are interchangeable, just depends on perspective
Kentucky should be above Vandy
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:35 pm to Farmer1906
1. Arkansas Razorbacks
2-14. Irrelevant
2-14. Irrelevant
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:36 pm to Farmer1906
LSU has more wins and national titles than UGA. RELEVANT national titles mind you
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:37 pm to Farmer1906
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Do you think they got it right?
Prolly pretty close. The fact that they do that "average ranking" think seems to indicate that they weight each category evenly. Doing so puts as much significance on having a Heisman trophy winner as it does on winning a national title. It also ranks by conference championships and assumes all conferences championships are the same (we know a Pac title isn't as hard to win as an SEC title).
It has some flaws, but it's probably not off by much. Basically, Bama, ND, or USC could all make some reasonable claim for all time best.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:47 pm to Farmer1906
Some metrics are more valuable than others, yet are all weighted the same if I am reading it correctly.
Northern and Western bias is apparent in Heisman winners and All-Americans.
Being in a more robust conference (and therefor splitting championships more often) hurts some teams. I mean, Rutgers is #7 in that category.
It may not alter the list too much, but I prefer all-time win % over all-time wins. Not everyone started football at the same time, or played in as many games back when it was more of a club sport.
Even as a Bama fan, I think I would prefer a more uniform methodology for National Titles. I hate that it disregards a certain portion of important CFB history, but when you're comparing all the schools at once it's better to stick with, say, "AP, Coaches, then BCS, then CFB Playoff Champ" - anything prior to that will be claimed (and most with at least some legit claim to it) by multiple schools.
Overall though, the list isn't bad. 7 current SEC schools in the top 16 is pretty impressive.
Northern and Western bias is apparent in Heisman winners and All-Americans.
Being in a more robust conference (and therefor splitting championships more often) hurts some teams. I mean, Rutgers is #7 in that category.
It may not alter the list too much, but I prefer all-time win % over all-time wins. Not everyone started football at the same time, or played in as many games back when it was more of a club sport.
Even as a Bama fan, I think I would prefer a more uniform methodology for National Titles. I hate that it disregards a certain portion of important CFB history, but when you're comparing all the schools at once it's better to stick with, say, "AP, Coaches, then BCS, then CFB Playoff Champ" - anything prior to that will be claimed (and most with at least some legit claim to it) by multiple schools.
Overall though, the list isn't bad. 7 current SEC schools in the top 16 is pretty impressive.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:58 pm to Farmer1906
Historically speaking Tennessee and Alabama put football in the south on the map.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:01 pm to Farmer1906
Winsipedia has UK ranked #60. Western Kentucky is #97.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:43 pm to Farmer1906
Meh. CFDW is better.
1. Alabama
9. LSU
10. Tennessee
11. Georgia
12. Florida
13. Auburn
20. Texas A&M
23. Arkansas
LINK
1. Alabama
9. LSU
10. Tennessee
11. Georgia
12. Florida
13. Auburn
20. Texas A&M
23. Arkansas
LINK
Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:50 pm to Farmer1906
1. Alabama (15 recognized national titles, 25 SEC titles, 23 major bowl wins)
2. Tennessee (4 recognized national titles, 13 SEC titles, 8 major bowl wins)
3. LSU (4 recognized national titles, 11 SEC titles, 11 major bowl wins)
4. Georgia (2 recognized national titles, 12 SEC titles, 9 major bowl wins)
5. Florida (3 recognized national titles, 8 SEC titles, 8 major bowl wins)
6. Auburn (3 recognized national titles, 8 SEC titles, 4 major bowl wins)
There's your Big 6.
2. Tennessee (4 recognized national titles, 13 SEC titles, 8 major bowl wins)
3. LSU (4 recognized national titles, 11 SEC titles, 11 major bowl wins)
4. Georgia (2 recognized national titles, 12 SEC titles, 9 major bowl wins)
5. Florida (3 recognized national titles, 8 SEC titles, 8 major bowl wins)
6. Auburn (3 recognized national titles, 8 SEC titles, 4 major bowl wins)
There's your Big 6.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:38 pm to Farmer1906
Kentucky is above Vanderbilt and Mississippi State. No idea how they managed to frick that ranking up. Kentucky and South Carolina are extremely close historically, but they do have us head to head so they should get the nod.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 6:07 pm to Farmer1906
LSU ahead of Georgia and probably UT
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/22/16 at 6:27 pm to Farmer1906
Arkansas has more too 10 finishes. Higher all time avg. AP rank, head to head, and it was known that the SWC was Texas, Arkansas, aTm as programs go. Arkansas above aTm.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:08 pm to Farmer1906
Considering that list has USC #1 overall I'd say it puts a whole lot more emphasis on individual player achievements than the team.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:41 pm to Farmer1906
Flip Florida and Auburn*.
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