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Bert at it again
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:20 pm
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In an interview with Arkansas radio show "SportsTalk with Bo Mattingly" Bielema said that he believes that underclassmen should be allowed to return to school if they enter the draft and go undrafted.
I'm cool with this. But wait there's more.
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From there, Bielema went one step further: Forget undrafted players. How about players who are drafted but not necessarily in the spot they envisioned? Should they be allowed to come back too?
Not cool with this, too much drama. If you're a big boy and make a decision, live with what happens.
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:24 pm to momentoftruth87
Too big of a can worms.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:25 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Too big of a can worms.
No different than what the NBA is doing.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:26 pm to momentoftruth87
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he believes that underclassmen should be allowed to return to school if they enter the draft and go undrafted.
I agree
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players who are drafted but not necessarily in the spot they envisioned? Should they be allowed to come back too?
No
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:26 pm to momentoftruth87
How is the second too much drama, but declaring, going to the draft, not getting drafted and wanting to come back not?
It's a gamble either way, but if you opt to leave your team, you should be certain that you're going to get drafted IMO. If you're not confident, don't declare.
It's a gamble either way, but if you opt to leave your team, you should be certain that you're going to get drafted IMO. If you're not confident, don't declare.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:26 pm to momentoftruth87
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No different than what the NBA is doing.
I'm pretty sure you can't be drafted and come back to College just because you don't like your spot.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:28 pm to idlewatcher
Does the word "agents" ring a bell? Most agents of decent players put up front money, knowing they will collect come contract time. A player is not drafted, his agent wants his money.....??
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:28 pm to idlewatcher
Because not being picked first or being satisfied is different then no gain. If it's a wash it hurts no one besides the player. If someone is drafted and acts like a 2 year old that didn't get as many fruit snacks as another kid did it's different.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:29 pm to rockiee
Didn't mean it like that. I was referring to the NBA combine is open. I know not everyone gets an invite but that's still taking that next step
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:30 pm to momentoftruth87
If you declare yourself a pro. Which you do when you enter a professional draft you should not be allowed to play amateur sports.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:31 pm to momentoftruth87
Uh frick that. If you leave you have to live with the decision and outcome. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, tough shite.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:31 pm to momentoftruth87
I actually like both plans. Hell most of the star athletes aren't in school for an education. Let them come back and earn the damn degree and continue playing. No biggy. Also helps schools make more money by getting good athletes back, better product on field, etc.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:31 pm to momentoftruth87
Let's just go the MLB route
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:31 pm to momentoftruth87
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Didn't mean it like that. I was referring to the NBA combine is open. I know not everyone gets an invite but that's still taking that next step
Ahh, well I'm open to the idea of undrafted but I think the whole coming back after drafted could be a real mess.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:44 pm to hogminer
I don't think the NFL wants drafted players deciding they don't want to sign to go back to college. You would have to go to a 15 round draft at that point.
I tend to agree for the players that go undrafted with eligibility left but normally there is a reason they leave to begin with - academics, etc.
The problem is most of those underclassmen need agents just to train for the draft and you pretty much have to drop out of school to train all those months leading up to it, might effect eligibility.
I tend to agree for the players that go undrafted with eligibility left but normally there is a reason they leave to begin with - academics, etc.
The problem is most of those underclassmen need agents just to train for the draft and you pretty much have to drop out of school to train all those months leading up to it, might effect eligibility.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:49 pm to momentoftruth87
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momentoftruth87
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Not cool with this, too much drama. If you're a big boy and make a decision, live with what happens.
MLB has done this for millenia it seems like in their amateur player draft. The NFL would survive. But it'd put an emphasis on proven players as opposed on drafting projects based on potential.
The real screw would be turned on collegiate programs. In College Baseball, coaches have to sweat out not only their highly-recruited signing classes past NSD but the draft as well. Then they have to wait all the way until the 1st day of classes the following semester.
Football Programs would face that same problem. Baseball coaches have carped for years about MLB not working with them so holes aren't blown into the hulls of their program's rosters without a lot of bones being thrown their way. A lot of that-IMO, anyway-has to do with the fact that MLB picks a lot of HS and international kids and doesn't have to really play all that nice with the colleges.
The NFL would have to do that with such a symbiotic relationship going between college football and the pro game.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:53 pm to momentoftruth87
Agree with Bert on the first idea, the second one would be a clusterfrick.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:53 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Agree
In an interview with Arkansas radio show "SportsTalk with Bo Mattingly" Bielema said that he believes that underclassmen should be allowed to return to school if they enter the draft and go undrafted.
quote:No - What the hell would the NFL do of they drafted a college QB as a pro TE and the kid was allowed to go back to college as a QB? What would NFL team do? Just miss out on a draft pick, or would they have a "re-draft"?
From there, Bielema went one step further: Forget undrafted players. How about players who are drafted but not necessarily in the spot they envisioned? Should they be allowed to come back too?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:54 pm to GFunk
The NFL could easily go with modified MLB draft rules.
Just instead of allowing them out of high school, start with the three years in college. NFL teams will do their homework and figure out who wants to go pro and who doesn't.. and assign grades accordingly.
Realistically they should back a couple of the smaller football leagues and turn them into developmental/farm leagues and extend the draft out to say 12 rounds. There are already a ton of undrafted free agents.. so there's demand past the 7th round.
Just instead of allowing them out of high school, start with the three years in college. NFL teams will do their homework and figure out who wants to go pro and who doesn't.. and assign grades accordingly.
Realistically they should back a couple of the smaller football leagues and turn them into developmental/farm leagues and extend the draft out to say 12 rounds. There are already a ton of undrafted free agents.. so there's demand past the 7th round.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:54 pm to Killean
First idea seems to be coming out of a lot of coaches mouths. I've heard Saban discuss it 2-3 times.
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