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"One and done is killing college basketball"
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:43 am
Evidence? Because the "lack of commitment to a program" argument is bullshite. How is watching the most talented players at the college level hurting the game? How does Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis and Derrick Rose being at the college level for 1 year hurt the game overall?
Answer: It doesn't. It actually brings more viewers to the college games. The only thing it hurts are the feelings of programs that can't get those types of players. Yes programs like Ole Miss. Hurr Durr.
Answer: It doesn't. It actually brings more viewers to the college games. The only thing it hurts are the feelings of programs that can't get those types of players. Yes programs like Ole Miss. Hurr Durr.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 11:48 am
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:47 am to Henry Jones Jr
I don't watch the NBA, so it sucks for me. I have never enjoyed professional basketball.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:48 am to Henry Jones Jr
There are really only 2 or 3 teams capable of recruiting the one and dones. I don't think it hurts basketball, because it is allowing the smaller guys to compete every year. Basically, it's spreading the wealth of 5 and 4-star players amongst other programs.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:51 am to Henry Jones Jr
Killing? Wouldn't go thar far. But I wouldn't say it's good for it. Even if it has a very small negative effect
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:51 am to Henry Jones Jr
I agree. The problem with college basketball is that it is slow and boring. The NBA is a far superior product, and there's really no comparison. At least with college football there are some things that make it legitimately more exciting to follow and watch than the NFL.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:54 am to Henry Jones Jr
What's killing college basketball is the 35 second shot clock and watching guys shoot teams out of games. The play is horrible.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:57 am to Henry Jones Jr
It's not killing the quality of the basketball in college basketball. It is certainly making the idea of a "student athlete" even more suspect than it already is.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:00 pm to Henry Jones Jr
i would hate it for my team. yes kentucky is badass, no arguments from me there. but i like to know my team, watch them get better, root for the players, fantasize of when some will finally be gone, etc etc etc. that's what college basketball is about to me the team play, not some guys that are there for a fleeting minute.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:02 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I think the thing that bothers me most about media and others championing the argument that the one and dones are allegedly killing college basketball (it's not IMO) is that there is a long laundry list of things that needs to be addressed to improve college basketball before the one and done rule.
How many of us has bitched about the horribly inconsistent officiating all season? The inconsistency of foul calls between the perimeter and the post? A lane that's too small and a shot clock that's too long? Even the women have a shorter shot clock at this point. Or the ridiculous amount of TV timeouts and allotted timeouts?
All of those things are things that can be fixed that would legitimately effect every single team in the college game. "Fixing" the one and done would just be putting a bandaid on a gaping wound.
How many of us has bitched about the horribly inconsistent officiating all season? The inconsistency of foul calls between the perimeter and the post? A lane that's too small and a shot clock that's too long? Even the women have a shorter shot clock at this point. Or the ridiculous amount of TV timeouts and allotted timeouts?
All of those things are things that can be fixed that would legitimately effect every single team in the college game. "Fixing" the one and done would just be putting a bandaid on a gaping wound.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:03 pm to Henry Jones Jr
It has definitely deteriorated Auburn's basketball program.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Agree. Need to adopt college baseball rules.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:11 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I'm so glad I'm not a college basketball fan. how the frick do people invest themselves in a shitty sport like that. why not just watch the NBA instead?
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:19 pm to Henry Jones Jr
A few reasons why "one and done" is hurting college basketball:
1. It's a mentality that almost every relatively big time recruit has that he is good enough to only have to play one year of college basketball. That's not just confined to the top 10 or so player who actually ARE that good, but players who are ranked in the 40's, 50's and 60's coming out of HS. Thus, you see many good players leave either after their 1st or at most 2nd year of college ball because they see staying any longer than that as almost an admission that they aren't as good as maybe they thought they were.
When you continue to lose good college players prematurely, the quality of the game suffers. Just imagine if some of these guys who leave knowing they will likely be drafted in the 2nd round (if at all) decided to stay.
2. In the 80's you had a lot of GREAT college players (Ralph Sampson, Patrick Ewing, etc.) all stay at least through their junior year. It gave teams a chance to build rivalries which was great for fans.
1. It's a mentality that almost every relatively big time recruit has that he is good enough to only have to play one year of college basketball. That's not just confined to the top 10 or so player who actually ARE that good, but players who are ranked in the 40's, 50's and 60's coming out of HS. Thus, you see many good players leave either after their 1st or at most 2nd year of college ball because they see staying any longer than that as almost an admission that they aren't as good as maybe they thought they were.
When you continue to lose good college players prematurely, the quality of the game suffers. Just imagine if some of these guys who leave knowing they will likely be drafted in the 2nd round (if at all) decided to stay.
2. In the 80's you had a lot of GREAT college players (Ralph Sampson, Patrick Ewing, etc.) all stay at least through their junior year. It gave teams a chance to build rivalries which was great for fans.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:28 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I hope they don't try to force these kids to work for free any longer than the 1 years they are already forcing when they stop allowing them to jump to the NBA from high school.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:38 pm to Henry Jones Jr
On a micro level it does no harm whatsoever. UK was quite entertaining and has been for years.
On a Macro level it does hurt the game a bit. UK has been on a final 4 tear and Cauley-Stein is the only player I can name off of any of the final 4 teams. Just different, and not great imo.
On a Macro level it does hurt the game a bit. UK has been on a final 4 tear and Cauley-Stein is the only player I can name off of any of the final 4 teams. Just different, and not great imo.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:50 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I went from not missing an LSU game in nine years to not attending an LSU game for nine years. It may not have killed it, but it killed it for me.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:03 pm to Henry Jones Jr
It certainly hurts in the experience category. Imagine those one and done players 4 years later and the impact they would have on a team during the tournament.
Now, obviously it's better to have them play one year vs none at all, but that doesn't change the initial point of this post.Basically, it's talent vs experience.
The point you appear to be fighting holds some validity, IMHO. Yes these high profile one and done players add excitement, but they also at times run around like chickens with their heads cut off, not having a full understanding of the game. So, while its nice having highly rated players, that talent isn't always enough to make up for their lack of experience in the game as a whole.
Now, obviously it's better to have them play one year vs none at all, but that doesn't change the initial point of this post.Basically, it's talent vs experience.
The point you appear to be fighting holds some validity, IMHO. Yes these high profile one and done players add excitement, but they also at times run around like chickens with their heads cut off, not having a full understanding of the game. So, while its nice having highly rated players, that talent isn't always enough to make up for their lack of experience in the game as a whole.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Don't think it is killing it, but I will say that I'm not a fan of it and think we should have the baseball rule.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:29 pm to Henry Jones Jr
This is an NBA problem, not an NCAA problem. NBA needs to insist kids stay in school at least 2 seasons.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:29 pm to Henry Jones Jr
How could having these guys stick around for 3 years hurt the game? It'd spread the wealth of players to other teams and also give these guys an opportunity to earn a degree (or get close to it). I think an arbitrary 1 year requirement is ridiculous.
I'm pro-choice when it comes to this. You either require a college degree to enter your profession or you don't. If you don't, then why the hell does a guy need to play for 1, 2, or 3 seasons (at a college) if the team that wants to employ him thinks he's ready? Why can't he go to a D-league to get experience and get paid at the same time? Why college?
I'm pro-choice when it comes to this. You either require a college degree to enter your profession or you don't. If you don't, then why the hell does a guy need to play for 1, 2, or 3 seasons (at a college) if the team that wants to employ him thinks he's ready? Why can't he go to a D-league to get experience and get paid at the same time? Why college?
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