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re: It will be fascinating to watch the Co Head Coach Dynamic @ Auburn
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:59 am to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:59 am to LooseCannon22282
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so you guys are in the playoffs yet you're sitting around thinking about what Auburn is going to do next year?
Sounds like lil bro to me.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:05 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
It was a good hire - AU terminated their DC, and got the best one on the market.
That said, I will wait and see what comes of it. EJ was a good DC, but did poorly at AU. It's possible that the same will happen with Boom, or they may turn around and have a stout defense just as Alabama is bringing in stout offenses.
As it stands, I'm curious to see how well he does at AU with Gus as HC. I'm really curious to see how top recruits that play both sides (like Kerryon Johnson) will end up playing. Even though he's a really good safety, will Gus insist on him playing RB despite a very solid RB corps? Looking at the commits currently slated to sign with AU, there's a decent batch of OLBs and potential Safeties, but a serious drop off after that.
I think Boom's hire will help swing some tight races for defensive players (Holland, Walker) towards AU unless they had developed relationships with EJ. Auburn's got room for some more commitments, but with so many early declarations, time may be running out. Boom's not going to have much to work with next year on the defensive side (though honestly he should - AU signed a fairly stout defensive class last year, especially in the secondary, and a highly rated one in 2013). Of course, our Auburn fans would have to let us know how many are currently enrolled.
Muschamp was the smart hire. Is it something the rest of the SEC needs to fear? No idea. No one was thinking people should be worried about hiring Kiffin, and he's brought added elements to Alabama's offense. The team doing the hiring will always trumpet the hiring as something to worry about, and the other teams will wave it off. The correct answer is, of course, "we'll see."
That said, I will wait and see what comes of it. EJ was a good DC, but did poorly at AU. It's possible that the same will happen with Boom, or they may turn around and have a stout defense just as Alabama is bringing in stout offenses.
As it stands, I'm curious to see how well he does at AU with Gus as HC. I'm really curious to see how top recruits that play both sides (like Kerryon Johnson) will end up playing. Even though he's a really good safety, will Gus insist on him playing RB despite a very solid RB corps? Looking at the commits currently slated to sign with AU, there's a decent batch of OLBs and potential Safeties, but a serious drop off after that.
I think Boom's hire will help swing some tight races for defensive players (Holland, Walker) towards AU unless they had developed relationships with EJ. Auburn's got room for some more commitments, but with so many early declarations, time may be running out. Boom's not going to have much to work with next year on the defensive side (though honestly he should - AU signed a fairly stout defensive class last year, especially in the secondary, and a highly rated one in 2013). Of course, our Auburn fans would have to let us know how many are currently enrolled.
Muschamp was the smart hire. Is it something the rest of the SEC needs to fear? No idea. No one was thinking people should be worried about hiring Kiffin, and he's brought added elements to Alabama's offense. The team doing the hiring will always trumpet the hiring as something to worry about, and the other teams will wave it off. The correct answer is, of course, "we'll see."
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:09 pm to Sabear
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Saban hiring Lane
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smells of desperation
I agree that when Saban hired Kiffin, it smelled of desperation.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:10 pm to skrayper
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EJ was a good DC,
This is not what I heard from a lot of bama fans when he was hired
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:12 pm to blzr
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This is not what I heard from a lot of bama fans when he was hired
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The team doing the hiring will always trumpet the hiring as something to worry about, and the other teams will wave it off.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:12 pm to Sabear
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This smells of desperation..........
Do I sense a little fear from you? I don't understand how it is a smell of desperation when he is doing exactly what he needs to do to win football games. It's really similar to what Nick Saban let Lane Kiffin do.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:14 pm to Sabear
I like that this is premised on the idea that letting the DC run the defense is odd.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:14 pm to skrayper
Saying Boom won't have much to work with next year is wrong.
We will have the best front 7 we have had since 2010 when we led the league in rush defense.
Our secondary is questionable, but our front 7 won't be.
Now in 2015 our dline is in serious trouble if we don't add to it this recruiting cycle.
We will have the best front 7 we have had since 2010 when we led the league in rush defense.
Our secondary is questionable, but our front 7 won't be.
Now in 2015 our dline is in serious trouble if we don't add to it this recruiting cycle.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:15 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Our secondary is questionable, but our front 7 won't be
I have this weird feeling Muschamp is going to fall in love with Nick Ruffin/Tre Williams.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:16 pm to skrayper
EJ was a mediocre coordinator at best if you look @ stats. If you consider 40-60 ranking defense every year except 1 then I guess he's "good".
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:17 pm to Sabear
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Gus is literally handing Will the keys and turning him loose.
You're joking right? Gustav seems to be as much as a control freak as Lil Nicky....
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:21 pm to Sabear
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play itself out in 2015. It didn't work out with Chizik/Gus. Yeah they won a a Nattie but that was due more to leasing Cam for a semester as opposed to anything else.
This isn't similar to Saban hiring Lane. Saban is in charge of every single facet on his program. Gus is literally handing Will the keys and turning him loose.
This smells of desperation..........
Fear...I smell it.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:24 pm to Sabear
What the is purpose of this thread?
quote:Isn't winning a Nattie the object of the game?
It didn't work out with Chizik/Gus. Yeah they won a a Nattie
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:26 pm to RT1941
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Isn't winning a Nattie the object of the game?
Winning the SEC is bigger than winning the Nattie. Don't you read the LSU posts?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:32 pm to Crimson Legend
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Don't you read the LSU posts?
Oh lord, now you've opened pandora's box and given them an invite into this thread.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:33 pm to Sabear
I wish them well and all but I didn't want Boom because I think there will be serious ego and coaching philosophy conflicts. He is an emotional and controlling guy, when the high speed offense is making mistakes and his defense is coming apart because of time on the field, the wheels will come off.
I'm very glad he went to Auburn
I'm very glad he went to Auburn
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:44 pm to plazadweller
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EJ was a mediocre coordinator at best if you look @ stats. If you consider 40-60 ranking defense every year except 1 then I guess he's "good".
2004 MSU - 51st
2005 MSU - 31st
2006 MSU - 46th
2007 MSU - 28th
2008 USC - 11th
2009 USC - 15th
2010 USC - 46th
2011 USC - 3rd
Prior to Auburn, there was nothing in EJ's resume to imply he would falter there. Auburn has a great recruiting base, a great offense, and one of the better recruiters out there as a HC (Gus). Yes, his one year at Southern Miss was a bomb, but that's because of absolutely no talent on that team prior to him coming in. Not to mention that statistically, Auburn got better this year (20 spots in the rankings, roughly 40 yds less per game given up).
It's that basis, prior to him coming to Auburn, that makes me wonder if it has nothing to do with who the DC is, but rather the philosophy present. That doesn't mean that it's impossible for Gus to have a great defense while he's there, but he'll likely have to change his philosophies to some extent to allow it to happen, just as Saban did for the offense to shine this year.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:45 pm to Sabear
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This smells of desperation..........
This post? I agree.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:47 pm to skrayper
quote:Have an upvote
skrayper
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