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Is Bama better prepared for a Post-Saban era than it was for Post Bear?
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:08 pm
I'd say the topic answers it all. I'd say we had a hard time accepting ANY measure of normalcy when the Bear retired. I think this started from the top of our admin all the way to the fan.
I am about to be 31, so any of you who are older definitely correct me on how off-based I am, but we didn't get a reputation of firing coaches pretty quick for nothing... am I right?
Are we better prepared for whenever that does happen now?
I am about to be 31, so any of you who are older definitely correct me on how off-based I am, but we didn't get a reputation of firing coaches pretty quick for nothing... am I right?
Are we better prepared for whenever that does happen now?
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:09 pm to m2pro
I want everyone's thoughts tho?
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:10 pm to m2pro
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Post-Saban era
I'm excited for this.
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:19 pm to m2pro
God I hope so.......hopefully the admin. and the good ole boy contingent learned their lesson and we will find the next Saban instead of the next Ray Perkins
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:26 pm to m2pro
You mean after SABAN steps down from AD?
Yeah, I think we'll be good for many years to come. This giant won't go to sleep for a while I'm afraid. Sorry SEC.
Yeah, I think we'll be good for many years to come. This giant won't go to sleep for a while I'm afraid. Sorry SEC.
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:36 pm to m2pro
I will probably be dead. Look while Miles has done with a saban established program. Had Saban not come back to college football the dynasty would be in Baton Rouge. Miles has been running on Saban fumes for almost a decade.
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:36 pm to m2pro
Saban has a son. Supreme rule will pass to him when Saban and the organization sees fit. God will shine down and bless him with the divine right of power that his father and the Bear had before him. He will lead his people to many a battle....and process many along the way. Many a crystal ball shall be plundered and his enemies will weep before him.
Praise the new Saban.
Praise the new Saban.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:43 pm to m2pro
If Les Miles can still have LSU competitive 9 years after Saban left then I feel great about our chances. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:24 pm to m2pro
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 8:58 pm to m2pro
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I am about to be 31, so any of you who are older definitely correct me on how off-based I am, but we didn't get a reputation of firing coaches pretty quick for nothing... am I right?
Are we better prepared for whenever that does happen now?
EASILY more prepared. Bama's problem after Bryant was not the quick trigger finger to fire coaches, a lack of talent, or anything else.
It was Pat Dye. Bama fans can say what they want, but Dye was one HELL of a coach. One of the best the SEC has EVER seen. He was a hard arse of the 10th degree. He was such a hard arse when he got to AU he makes saban look like a pussy (seriously). He had a rep when he arrived at AU of being a hard core militant dictator. He ran off 20-25% of the entire team his first spring training and in his first two years, took on vastly superior teams and made it a 4 quarter game or beat them.
When Saban is gone, it is not likely AU will have a coach that has already surpassed bama and is beginning a decade of SEC dominance. It could happen, but when Bear retired, a LOT if not the majority of bama's failures were due to Dye's greatness. It is hard for both teams to be on top at the same time (though not impossible - both were good in the 80's).
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:53 am to m2pro
Even if the answer is once again no like after the Bearbid love to have that problem even once much less twice
Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:53 am to m2pro
The only time I've ever really seen a smooth transition was Howard Schnellenberger to Jimmy Johnson at Miami.
Had Johnson stayed at Miami, there's no telling how many national championships he would've won. Saban has actually surpassed Johnson as a college coach, and that's no small feat. In fact, Saban is the best coach since JJ.
I just don't see that train stopping until Saban has a heart attack or something. Alabama will probably move into having the greatest dynasty in college football history. Greater than OU in the 70's and 80's. Miami in the 80's and 90's. Notre Dame. You name it.
Saban is marching towards being the greatest coach in history. I personally think he's got OCD and is batshit crazy, but that only feeds into his perfectionist mindset and will to win.
It will not be easy to replace Saban. No way, no how. You might get a Miles scenario at LSU or a Erickson scenario at Miami. But they'll be a pale reflection of just how good Saban is. And they won't be able to sustain the success.
Had Johnson stayed at Miami, there's no telling how many national championships he would've won. Saban has actually surpassed Johnson as a college coach, and that's no small feat. In fact, Saban is the best coach since JJ.
I just don't see that train stopping until Saban has a heart attack or something. Alabama will probably move into having the greatest dynasty in college football history. Greater than OU in the 70's and 80's. Miami in the 80's and 90's. Notre Dame. You name it.
Saban is marching towards being the greatest coach in history. I personally think he's got OCD and is batshit crazy, but that only feeds into his perfectionist mindset and will to win.
It will not be easy to replace Saban. No way, no how. You might get a Miles scenario at LSU or a Erickson scenario at Miami. But they'll be a pale reflection of just how good Saban is. And they won't be able to sustain the success.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:25 am to m2pro
Saban will leave huge shoes to fill, but hopefully the lesson we've learned is that we will never win simply because "We're Alabama." That's a retarded way of thinking and that was the mentality we had for 25 years.
However, being the head coach at Alabama isn't easy. You have to be able to deal with more day-to-day BS than practically any other college job. Only certain type of people can handle that and its going to take a coach who has the political capital who can tell boosters and such to screw off...which is basically what Saban did when he got here. He's done an excellent job of getting rid of the hangers on and boosters who ran the program before. My fear is that once he leaves, they'll see it as an opportunity to lurch back in.
However, being the head coach at Alabama isn't easy. You have to be able to deal with more day-to-day BS than practically any other college job. Only certain type of people can handle that and its going to take a coach who has the political capital who can tell boosters and such to screw off...which is basically what Saban did when he got here. He's done an excellent job of getting rid of the hangers on and boosters who ran the program before. My fear is that once he leaves, they'll see it as an opportunity to lurch back in.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:28 am to m2pro
things don't happen that way; the outgoing coach tries to pick his successor. saban did that at LSU. he will most definately do it at bama. will the pick work out? usually they don't. les miles will eventually become the most winning coach at LSU and there is still a vocal segment of fans that hated him from day one and still do. since nicky has 3 nc's at bama, you will probably get a ray perkins and even if he's good, it won't be good enough.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:43 am to m2pro
You have Kirby, the dynasty continues /thread
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:46 am to m2pro
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I'd say the topic answers it all. I'd say we had a hard time accepting ANY measure of normalcy when the Bear retired. I think this started from the top of our admin all the way to the fan.
I doubt it. The next few coaches at Bama will be compared to Saban at every turn. What Saban has done at Bama is unprecedented, in this day and age of CFB parity.
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