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re: No 'great' team in college this year

Posted on 10/18/10 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/18/10 at 3:39 pm to
When was the last time a team with as bad a defense as Auburn's won the national title? 2007 LSU gave up a lot of points as the year went on but again that was obviously a bizarre year. And LSU was far more talented defensively than Auburn. Down the list everywhere you look is at least good defenses.
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 3:43 pm
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 3:45 pm to
No team out of the SEC (past or present) will completely blow everyone out and not have a couple of close games.

Too many good coaches in the conference and too much talent.

Auburn has been the "great" team in the SEC so far this season and they have still had close games.

There are indeed great teams in college, but the fact remains they are 18-23 years old.
There are too many outside factors that can contribute to someone at that age having an "off week" here and there.
Usually that group of guys or individual player isnt the 3rd string center....

If anyone thinks someone at that age doesnt get cocky or becomes complacent after seeing themselves on Sportscenter while hearing experts slurp them up for weeks on end; you are delusional.

This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 3:47 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20834 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 5:41 pm to
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why not? alabama didn't exactly dominate their opponents last year, what's the difference?

Bama didn't blow everyone out, but they won most of their games comfortably. Auburn, Tennessee, and I guess Texas were the only ones where they seemed like they were in danger late. Their defense was much better than Auburn's, which makes a huge difference. Auburn has given up almost 25 points a game, which is atrocious for any team with title aspirations. They've already given up more points than Bama did all of last season.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 6:36 pm to
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Bama didn't blow everyone out, but they won most of their games comfortably. Auburn, Tennessee, and I guess Texas were the only ones where they seemed like they were in danger late. Their defense was much better than Auburn's, which makes a huge difference. Auburn has given up almost 25 points a game, which is atrocious for any team with title aspirations. They've already given up more points than Bama did all of last season.


And LSU had the lead in the 4th quarter, but let's not go into that game . Virginia Tech trailed by 3 in the 4th quarter too.

How history re-writes itself is pretty incredible.
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 6:43 pm to
Auburn - Improved, vastly.
LSU - Improved
Arky - Improved
MSU - Improved
Ole Miss - Same
Bama - Worse, but not much. Last year's Bama team was not the world beaters gumps claim.

SC - Improved
UK - Same
UGA - Worse
UT - Same
UF - Worse
Vandy - Same

5 teams better this year than last. 3 teams worse.

SEC as a whole is BETTER this year than last. Period.
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 6:44 pm
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 6:52 pm to
an argument might be made that florida, being so incredibly pitiful this year, has made a few teams look like they have had a remarkable improvement from last year to this year..
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 6:54 pm
Posted by lsudawg70
Huntsville
Member since Aug 2009
1601 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 6:52 pm to
A couple of weeks ago Bama fans thought they could beat an NFL team
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20834 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 6:59 pm to
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Virginia Tech trailed by 3 in the 4th quarter too.

VT was lucky to be in that game in the first place. Alabama manhandled them on both sides of the ball, they just had a few big special teams plays and maybe one on offense.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20834 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 7:02 pm to
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UT - Same
That's not at all true. UT is considerably worse than last year. This year, UT and Florida this year are as bad as they've been in since divisional play began. Even Tennessee's 5 win teams over the last 5 years had much better personnel than this version. Georgia is playing as poorly as they have in a long time, too. This is easily the worst the SEC East has ever been.
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 7:05 pm
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 9:44 pm to
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A couple of weeks ago Bama fans thought they could beat an NFL team


And a couple weeks ago, all the Auburn and LSU fans were talking about what a down year it is in the SEC.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 10:07 pm to
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And a couple weeks ago, all the Auburn and LSU fans were talking about what a down year it is in the SEC.


right? and besides, how many freaking Bama fans really can be proven to think we'd beat ANY pro team?

i saw at least 2 people outwardly, stupidly admit it.

but seriously, i hate it when people on this website are fake and genuinely want to believe that ANY sort of "majority" of bama fans believe stupid shite like that.

*edit*

no offense superman if you thought we would. lol. and i'll pre-emptively call you a dumbass just for fun!
This post was edited on 10/18/10 at 10:09 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36765 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:28 pm to
college football is down this year. The big 10 sucks, The sec east is in shambles, however the west is ridiculously good, The big 12 is probably the biggest joke i've ever seen, the pac 10 is oregon and some pretenders and i don't think oregon is elite by any means.
OU- sucks something aweful, sure they beat texas but texas sucks this year
M st- are you fricking kidding me
Auburn- doesn't have the oregon offense, but has the oregon defense
oregon- doesn't have a defense
LSU- great defense but for some reason they keep playing the short side option wonder on offense(although he could probably abuse the auburn secondary)
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22825 posts
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:57 pm to
I think 2004 USC, 2001 Miami, 2002 Miami, 2004 Auburn, 2008 UF, 2006 LSU, and 2007 LSU would beat 2009 Bama the vast majority of the time in a head to head game.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:07 am to
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I think 2004 USC, 2001 Miami, 2002 Miami, 2004 Auburn, 2008 UF, 2006 LSU, and 2007 LSU would beat 2009 Bama the vast majority of the time in a head to head game.



I agree with the Miami's. They could possibly do it.The USC, Auburn, UF, and the LSU's it'd be close.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20834 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:25 am to
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I agree with the Miami's. They could possibly do it.The USC, Auburn, UF, and the LSU's it'd be close.

2001 version would easily do it. Not as sure about 2002. They have the talent to do it, especially in the front 7, but the team, for whatever reason, was considerably worse than they should have been defensively. Likely had something to do with an extra year under Larry Coker and being further removed from Butch Davis. Maybe they weren't as focused after losing a bunch of seniors who were hellbent on winning a national title.

I'd take 2004 USC over you as well, but that would be much closer than the 2001 Canes. The 2008 Gators were exceptional post Ole Miss. I'd probably take them, but I'm not sure about beating them a vast majority of the time.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:44 am to
If you look at the stats alone no one would believe that Alabama-VT was a 10 point game. Alabama outgained Virginia Tech 495-155.
Posted by OUandLSUfan
Malibu, California
Member since Feb 2010
1375 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 1:04 am to
lawl any of USC or LSU's top 5 teams would have beat Bama last year.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 2:47 am to
Oklahoma is not his only real potential, they too look extremely flawed, but every team every year doesnt look perfect. Bama was a blocked field goal away from not being undefeated last year, Florida lost to Ole Miss in 2008, LSU lost twice in 2007, Florida lost to Auburn in 06, Texas almost lost to Ohio st and USC in 05, USC had numerous close games in 04 plus they now didnt win a couple of those lol. The same can be said for virtually any national champion every year. There is never a team that blows out every opponent
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9940 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:11 am to
Unless Bama is dominant you see no dominate team. Typical Bama fan.
Posted by Vince
Danziger Bridge
Member since Nov 2009
2223 posts
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:53 am to
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Not sure if serious. Bama was a great team last year.


Bammer was the greatest team on earth until two weeks ago!

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