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Dan Orlovsky thinks Ty was more impressive than Mendoza
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:28 am
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:28 am
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It Bama only had a better protection... and a ground game... filed here, under 'what could have been'
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“I think through eight games, Ty Simpson’s tape from Alabama, I think, is significantly more impressive than Fernando Mendoza’s,” he declared.
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:53 am to captainFid
Exhibit #3,875,412 in the case for why Mizzou never should have been invited to the SEC.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:55 am to captainFid
Ty has great passing talent and likely will do better away from Deboer and Grubb. They didn't understand how to bring out the best in him because they have serious coaching flaws.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:04 am to Shocco
What are DeBoer’s serious coaching flaws that hindered Ty this past year? Please try to be specific, not something like, “he’s just not a good coach”, etc. Thanks
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:10 am to tattoo
Deboer-1) Just look at how Ty was manged and there is your example. 2) He likes and agrees with Grubbs coaching philosophy: Weak, finesse, bi-polar.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:29 am to captainFid
Before we start posting every tom dick and Harry opinion---What's Dan's track record?
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:33 am to captainFid
I dont think Ty sucked. We had no running game at all.
I do think Ty choked after he threw that first INT. It was clearly in his head every snap the rest of the season.
Being in pain doesnt make you look like a lost toddler in target.
I love Ty but I dont know if hes mentally ready yet to be that guy. He just needs time
I do think Ty choked after he threw that first INT. It was clearly in his head every snap the rest of the season.
Being in pain doesnt make you look like a lost toddler in target.
I love Ty but I dont know if hes mentally ready yet to be that guy. He just needs time
Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:28 am to crimsoncoded94
That’s why I hope he ends up with the Rams. If he’s thrown to start immediately in some perpetual dumpster fire franchise like the Jets that might be it for him
Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:44 am to Shocco
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1) Just look at how Ty was manged and there is your example.
You mean where the cut out the deep ball from the offense to highlight him as a midrange passer because statistically pre-injury he was one of the worst in the country at throwing vertically?
How specifically was he mismanaged as it relates to your critique?
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2) He likes and agrees with Grubbs coaching philosophy: Weak, finesse, bi-polar.
Its fair not to like the air raid, but it is the dominant system in football right now at both levels. Its also important to note we had one of the worst OLs from a run blocking perspective in modern program history. So were you wanting them to run power with a broken QB and an OL that they inherited that was so bad we could barely get people bent backwards against Eastern Illinois?
Once a defense realizes you cant throw deep, you cant run and your QB is hurt there's really only so much you can do schematically to generate yardage and we were doing it at an elite level pre-injury (FEI top 10 offense with no run game post Missouri).
As someone who watched us in person almost all year and at two road games we just weren't that talented offensively once Jam got hurt and RW had his mental and physical issues.
There was no one they had to double team, nothing they needed to worry about on the ground and they could cheat safeties up because we couldn't stretch the field. None of that is coaching, its players who were injured or limited relative to past teams.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:05 pm to Shocco
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Ty has great passing talent and likely will do better away from Deboer and Grubb. They didn't understand how to bring out the best in him because they have serious coaching flaws.
Evidently Nick Saban and Tommy Rees didn't either based on that South Florida shitshow.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:50 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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Tommy Rees
This dude is the Falcons OC now. I don't have any strong opinions on him good or bad, but he must be so good at interviewing that he has them asking if he'd like to meet their daughters at the end of it.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:46 pm to tide06
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Its fair not to like the air raid, but it is the dominant system in football right now at both levels. Its also important to note we had one of the worst OLs from a run blocking perspective in modern program history. So were you wanting them to run power with a broken QB and an OL that they inherited that was so bad we could barely get people bent backwards against Eastern Illinois? Once a defense realizes you cant throw deep, you cant run and your QB is hurt there's really only so much you can do schematically to generate yardage and we were doing it at an elite level pre-injury (FEI top 10 offense with no run game post Missouri). As someone who watched us in person almost all year and at two road games we just weren't that talented offensively once Jam got hurt and RW had his mental and physical issues. There was no one they had to double team, nothing they needed to worry about on the ground and they could cheat safeties up because we couldn't stretch the field. None of that is coaching, its players who were injured or limited relative to past teams.
This, but the “run the damn bawll, Pawll” crowd will never hear it because it’s in their very DNA as to how they view the sport.
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:56 pm to RollTide4Ever
Orlovsky was a pretty stout college quarterback and was a backup quarterback in the NFL for a dozen years so he’s actually worn a jock, read a playbook, watched film for real, been in position meetings, thrown touchdown passes and had his arse sacked. He’s not just a media talking head. He also takes his role with ESPN seriously, supposedly he watches and breaks down film of six or seven full NFL games, start to finish, before he does their NFL show on Monday morning.
I would think his credibility is quite strong and that if he says something it carries some weight. Of course people can be wrong, James Spann was wrong about the weather in Trussville and Pinson yesterday.
I would think his credibility is quite strong and that if he says something it carries some weight. Of course people can be wrong, James Spann was wrong about the weather in Trussville and Pinson yesterday.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:49 pm to InkStainedWretch
I think he said he'd only reviewed the first 8 games of the season for each.
We know Ty's November wasn't great...he'll probably come around to the consensus opinion that Mendoza is the top QB.
I just want Ty to go first round to a decent team.
We know Ty's November wasn't great...he'll probably come around to the consensus opinion that Mendoza is the top QB.
I just want Ty to go first round to a decent team.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:14 am to crimsoncoded94
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I dont think Ty sucked. We had no running game at all.
The lack of a running game is what did us in down the stretch. Anyone who can't acknowledge this obviously doesn't know football. You can't win a national championship or compete for one unless you can run the football. In Bryce Young's Heisman season, Brian Robinson rushed for over 1,000 yards. In 2020, despite our passing game putting up gargantuan numbers with Mac Jones and DeVonta Smith, Najee Harris still rushed for 1,500 yards.
Every single Alabama national championship in my lifetime, when you include bowl stats prior to them being part of a player's season stats, has had a 1,000-yard rusher. That goes all the way back to Derrick Lassic in 1992.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:15 am to Chad4Bama
The problem with Mendoza is that he’s productive but he primarily throws RPOs and back shoulder fades. He’s a 5th year guy, so he didn’t make many mistakes. The RPOs and fades are both popping because of the run and the defense making sure they never need abandon it.
I don’t think either are future stars in the NFL - never can tell though - but I lean towards Ty having a higher ceiling because he does a lot of progression read passing.
I don’t think either are future stars in the NFL - never can tell though - but I lean towards Ty having a higher ceiling because he does a lot of progression read passing.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 8:10 am to captainFid
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It Bama only had a better protection... and a ground game... filed here, under 'what could have been'
I’m more concerned on what could have been if we brought back an experienced QB for 2026. The number of downvotes on posts saying that Bama should have brought Ty back for another season just shows that many people on this board have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. He may have said no given the 1st round projection, but it’s astonishing how many posters wanted to just move on from him.
I think we could have paid Russell enough to stay one more year even if we let Ty run it back (Arch and others have sat 2 years), but Mack would have likely transferred.
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:35 pm to BamaBravesPackers
A first year starter took us to the SECCG and CFP and won a game . KR and Mack may have stayed but I didn’t want to take that chance . This years demise had nothing to do with Ty or the QB position .. Ty did a hell of a job and I think between KR and Mack, next year will be fine at the QB position
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:48 pm to Bear88
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A first year starter took us to the SECCG and CFP and won a game
Big whoop. We’ve had multiple first year starters win championships.
Ty did nothing special or extraordinary. Take away Kirby’s dumb decision to run a stupid play to the outside on 4 and 1 down three points in the 4th q, Bama likely misses the playoff again.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:53 pm to TS1926
Well that’s my point dude .. you don’t need a veteran QB all the time to win. The poster I replied to has beat this drum forever
ETA- Ty must have done something right to be considered one of the best QBs available in the upcoming draft playing behind a god awful OL
ETA- Ty must have done something right to be considered one of the best QBs available in the upcoming draft playing behind a god awful OL
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 1:13 pm
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