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Make sense of the portal rankings
Posted on 1/13/26 at 2:36 am
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 2:46 am to FAT SEXY
I believe 247 just ranks the classes as is. On3 looks at what you lost vs what you gained. Both can be right.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 2:52 am to FAT SEXY
247, been told on3 takes into account who transferred from the program, which has nothing to do with the incoming portal players.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 3:48 am to FAT SEXY
Look at the website design, that should tell you all you need to know. 247 might as well be scout or espn at this point
LSU lost 32 players with an average grade of 71.97. They gained 24 players with an average grade of 73.63. Add in losing Nussmeier who would have graded out as a 4 star and they mostly broke even aside from losing some 3rd string depth that would never see the field
Their fans will say they trust Kiffin’s evaluations as cope, yet the same Kiffin would have had Chambliss on the bench all season if not for an injury
LSU lost 32 players with an average grade of 71.97. They gained 24 players with an average grade of 73.63. Add in losing Nussmeier who would have graded out as a 4 star and they mostly broke even aside from losing some 3rd string depth that would never see the field
Their fans will say they trust Kiffin’s evaluations as cope, yet the same Kiffin would have had Chambliss on the bench all season if not for an injury
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 4:26 am to FAT SEXY
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Which is more reliable?
Neither. The only way to get an accurate read on anything is to let the actual season play out.
But who am I to argue against capitalism, so 247 is more reliable because they have Texas highest.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 7:59 am to SECCaptain
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Their fans will say they trust Kiffin’s evaluations as cope,
You nailed it Ace. You really figured us out.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:05 am to Eldodroptop
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The only way to get an accurate read on anything is to let the actual season play out.
You really can't compare the two programs at this point.
Texas has a system already in place while LSU's system is going to be significantly revamped.
Teams that have been stable don't need as much portal talent and the learning curve is minimal.
Cignetti was an exception because he brought both his system and a whole bunch of players from James Madison. He also didn't have a killer schedule to deal with right out of the gate.
LSU has a legit chance because the toughest run is at the end of the season with Alabama, Texas and Tennessee in a row. LSU also caught a break by not having to play Georgia for three years in a row.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:08 am to SECCaptain
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SECCaptain
Your obsession with LSU is getting to a Dalton level.
LSU broke even
Kiffin told 99% of the outgoing transfers they were no longer welcome and brought in the #1 incoming transfer class.
Stick to throwing shite at Aggy
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:11 am to FAT SEXY
On3 ranks the whole incoming and outgoing
So I usually care about their rankings more...more impactful for the team if you also add in who left.
So I usually care about their rankings more...more impactful for the team if you also add in who left.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:25 am to Poker_hog
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On3 looks at what you lost vs what you gained
Not counting what you lost seems pretty stupid.
If you added 3 5* players you'd be #1, even if you lost 5 5* players.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:47 am to FAT SEXY
Both should be used for different reasons, but both have there faults. There’s really no good way to rank them.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:50 am to jonnyanony
Both are just looking at players rating without consideration about the other player attributes.
They equate:
1. A 4* JR LT w/ a .92 rating that is a 2 year starter, and
2. A 4* FR TE w/ a .92 rating that played 47 snaps in 6 games.
One is a fully developed player in a contract year heading to the NFL and the other needs to gain 35 lbs in the next 2 years to increase his chances of going to the NFL.
They are not equal.
They equate:
1. A 4* JR LT w/ a .92 rating that is a 2 year starter, and
2. A 4* FR TE w/ a .92 rating that played 47 snaps in 6 games.
One is a fully developed player in a contract year heading to the NFL and the other needs to gain 35 lbs in the next 2 years to increase his chances of going to the NFL.
They are not equal.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:51 am to jonnyanony
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If you added 3 5* players you'd be #1, even if you lost 5 5* players.
While this is correct. They take it overboard IMO. They give major credit to programs who lost “lowly” rated players but then got slightly higher but still lowly rated players. See West Virginia as an example of the imperfect system.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:52 am to jonnyanony
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Not counting what you lost seems pretty stupid.
If you added 3 5* players you'd be #1, even if you lost 5 5* players.
What if the 5* OL you lost were actually awful?
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:57 am to FAT SEXY
It’s all subjective.
A DT that barely contributed when on the field at Arkansas got a 4 star portal ranking bc he transferred to Texass.
A DT that barely contributed when on the field at Arkansas got a 4 star portal ranking bc he transferred to Texass.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:34 am to Poker_hog
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I believe 247 just ranks the classes as is. On3 looks at what you lost vs what you gained. Both can be right.
Very good points.
It's hard to evaluate departures... not everyone contributed or was a good fit. Some leave for more money, but others might leave because a coach is implementing a system better suited for their talents.
A blocking TE is less useful in an air raid offense than in a run-heavy one; if he leaves one for the other the air raid team isn't "losing" much but the run-heavy one is gaining a lot.
With the sheer number of players leaving it'd be impossible to evaluate everyone at that level of scrutiny, so it's better to look at both and try to get a feel for where you think your team is.
That won't stop trolls, but the vast majority of them will just look at numbers and won't be bothered to see if 80% of your transfers were backups or just bad fits for your system.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:36 am to NFLSU
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Your obsession with LSU is getting to a Dalton level.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:13 am to SECCaptain
Nuss is an outgoing SR. NOTHING to do with portal. You just had to throw his name in there.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:17 am to FAT SEXY
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Which is more reliable?
This is not the correct question as they measure two very different things.
If you want to know which program was most successful at luring inbound transfers, you should look at 247.
If you want to know which program netted out the best transfer results considering both inbound and outbound players, you should look at On3.
I lean to On3 just for basic logic. Have you won the transfer portal if you lost more talented players than you added?
Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:35 am to FAT SEXY
24/7 is based just on deposits. It doesn’t factor in withdrawals. On3 factors in both.
On3 gives a MUCH more accurate view of what the account balance actually is.
On3 gives a MUCH more accurate view of what the account balance actually is.
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