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Needed changes - no matter how the rest of the season goes

Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by Tiger97
Member since Feb 2015
633 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:53 am
Need a new special teams coach
That fake punt gutted us. Defense had just come up with a big stop. It was not a lucky play. The kid did not break a tackle to break it. There was no one out there for 40 yards or whatever it went for.
And it was not the first special teams breakdown this year. Won't be the last. Feeling pretty regular.

I think Moore needs to go.
He just does not show the ability to adjust enough, or at all. We need a different plan of attack in the running game when teams stop the stretch play. We have yet to show one.
We need a different passing plan when our quarterback is not executing and is struggling. Again and again, we have shown a lack of adjustment to lessen the load on the quarterback when the opposing defense has the upper hand.

Batoon has improved. His defenses give up too many big plays, but it feels like he has the defense moving in the right direction. I think he has earned more time to see if he can keep improving the defense and the defensive coaching.



Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6221 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Batoon has improved


I agree overall but he needs to hire a better safeties coach.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 6:07 pm to
I know Poque is a good coach, but is Pride just uncountable as far as fundamentals? He gave up that inside slants for a TD by just opening his shoulders immediately. I could have run that slant.
Posted by Tiger97
Member since Feb 2015
633 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:21 am to
Pride seems to be one of those players that is good for 48/50 plays every game, regardless of who we are playing. And often, those 2 plays go for a big play.
With Link, Yoro, and Moore this season, all the other coaches can count on the heat being somewhere else this offseason.
Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
334 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:38 pm to
Thinking back to 2021 the season started out with a 2 - 4 record. There was a lot of grumbling even for Missouri fans. The season finished 4 - 2 for a 6 - record and a bowl loss. So Drink does change things and improve.

For this season a position of need was quarterback. Drink went out and got Pribula, Zollers and retained Horn on the roster. Things did not work out but it was not for a lack of trying.

Posted by BlacknGoldNuts
Nutting
Member since Jul 2023
346 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Thinking back to 2021 the season started out with a 2 - 4 record.


More we lose, the faster Eli's going to Penn State.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
21909 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:31 pm to
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More we lose, the faster Eli's going to Penn State.

How do they sell a less successful version of the guy they just fired to their fans and donors?
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:52 pm to
Eli's after game press conference is a clue. He took 100% ownership of the loss. Didn't mention holding any coach accountable it was all him.

When he goes to PSU the narrative will be it was his fault for being more distracted than he was admitting. But he wanted to be there for this last Senior Night.
Posted by BlacknGoldNuts
Nutting
Member since Jul 2023
346 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:17 pm to
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How do they sell a less successful version of the guy they just fired to their fans and donors?



That's not what they are selling... They are selling a younger coach who understands building a team thru the portal, and also understands how to use the media. That's the future of college football.
Posted by KCkid
Kansas City, Mo.
Member since Oct 2015
178 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:01 pm to
So if we hired Franklin, would we take a hit in NIL recruiting?
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8031 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:37 pm to
No retreads. I want a G6 hot runner.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21214 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:40 pm to
Doubt it. Our donors are all in.
Posted by Arktigers
Member since Sep 2022
862 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:47 pm to
Two most successful coaches in my adult life, Pinkel and Drink. Pinkel was solid x and o’s and looked for advantages. Wide splits on oline, spread offense, etc. His recruiting was ok as he always found a few diamonds in the rough. Not a dynamic personality but solid. Drink not much of an x and o, not very creative in finding advantages. Large personality, dynamic face of university, good recruiter.

At end of the day, both styles yielded similar results. Pinkel did more with less, drink less with more.


If drink leaves, we need to find another young, energetic coach with solid coaching experience. Drink has pretty much been learning on the job at Mizzou how to be a football coach. Franklin is a solid coach but not sure he has the energy to make Mizzou standout among recruits.

Lastly, Drink is well paid for his performance. I believe next 2-3 years will define his ceiling as a coach, whether at Mizzou or somewhere else. Not the best time for a coaching search but if he wants to leave we should let him go. Mizzou has a lot to offer and we don’t want to remain married to someone with a wandering eye.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:27 pm to
No, Franklin is seen as the safest pick to keep the cash flowing.

Here's a name that surprised me, Hartline from Ohio State, probably because boosters think he will bring a proven championship process to Mizzou.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124633 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:31 pm to
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That's the future of college football.


The future of college football is talking shite and losing to anybody with a pulse.
Posted by Arktigers
Member since Sep 2022
862 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:34 pm to
Hartline is a very popular name on PSU boards.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6361 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:18 pm to
OK, that explains where the boosters got it from.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124633 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:15 pm to
His name has been raised in the Florida search, too.
Posted by BlacknGoldNuts
Nutting
Member since Jul 2023
346 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:53 am to
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The future of college football is talking shite and losing to anybody with a pulse.



Being a good coach is not a prerequisite anymore.
Posted by Tiger97
Member since Feb 2015
633 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:21 am to
Not everyone has what it takes to coach at Colorado Bass
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