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The playoff could end up with a LOT of unproven teams...
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:01 am
Doesn't mean those teams won't end up proving themselves IN the playoff. But look at the following potential scenario (which isn't too far fetched).
1 - Texas beats A&M, then loses to UGA in the SECCG. A&M drops out of the top 25.
2 - Miami beats SMU in ACCCG.
3 - Oregon beats OSU in Big 10 CCG.
4 - Boise ends up highest ranked G5.
5 - ASU wins Big 12 by beating Iowa State.
6 - Clemson beats SC. SC likely falls out of the rankings at 8-4. (I don't think a 4-loss team before the playoffs will be ranked... but if one is it would be SC)
Favorites win otherwise. You could end up with something like the following with their ranked wins.
1 - Oregon (OSUx2, Boise State)
2 - UGA (Texasx2, Tennessee, Clemson)
3 - Miami (SMU)
4 - Boise (no ranked wins)
5 - OSU (Indiana, PSU)
6 - PSU (no ranked wins)
7 - ND (no ranked wins)
8 - Texas (no ranked wins)
9 - Indiana (no ranked wins)
10 - Tennessee (Alabama)
11 - Clemson (no ranked wins)
12 - ASU (Iowa State, BYU)
12 playoff teams. 6 of them would not have beaten a ranked team prior to the playoff. 2 more would have only beaten one.
That's a whole not of "we're not very sure how good these teams actually are" type seasons that would be in the playoff.
Again, those teams all might be really good. This isn't saying they're bad. They are just unproven.
1 - Texas beats A&M, then loses to UGA in the SECCG. A&M drops out of the top 25.
2 - Miami beats SMU in ACCCG.
3 - Oregon beats OSU in Big 10 CCG.
4 - Boise ends up highest ranked G5.
5 - ASU wins Big 12 by beating Iowa State.
6 - Clemson beats SC. SC likely falls out of the rankings at 8-4. (I don't think a 4-loss team before the playoffs will be ranked... but if one is it would be SC)
Favorites win otherwise. You could end up with something like the following with their ranked wins.
1 - Oregon (OSUx2, Boise State)
2 - UGA (Texasx2, Tennessee, Clemson)
3 - Miami (SMU)
4 - Boise (no ranked wins)
5 - OSU (Indiana, PSU)
6 - PSU (no ranked wins)
7 - ND (no ranked wins)
8 - Texas (no ranked wins)
9 - Indiana (no ranked wins)
10 - Tennessee (Alabama)
11 - Clemson (no ranked wins)
12 - ASU (Iowa State, BYU)
12 playoff teams. 6 of them would not have beaten a ranked team prior to the playoff. 2 more would have only beaten one.
That's a whole not of "we're not very sure how good these teams actually are" type seasons that would be in the playoff.
Again, those teams all might be really good. This isn't saying they're bad. They are just unproven.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 11:43 am
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:13 am to DawginSC
Penn State, Indiana, TX and the possible ACC teams ended up pretty lucky with what their schedule turned out to be. Boise State will have only played Oregon and a top 25 UNLV most likely in their championship game.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:39 am to DawginSC
It is really hard to beat the same top 10 team twice in one season. It rarely happens, but when it does the two teams usually end up splitting.
I think Ohio State would beat Oregon in a rematch and Texas would beat Georgia in a rematch. If so, that would be Georgia’s third loss. That would certainly be interesting.
I think Ohio State would beat Oregon in a rematch and Texas would beat Georgia in a rematch. If so, that would be Georgia’s third loss. That would certainly be interesting.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:56 am to captdalton
quote:While what you say is true, Washington did beat a pretty good Oregon team twice just last season.
It is really hard to beat the same top 10 team twice in one season. It rarely happens, but when it does the two teams usually end up splitting.
I think Ohio State would beat Oregon in a rematch and Texas would beat Georgia in a rematch. If so, that would be Georgia’s third loss. That would certainly be interesting.
That said, Ewers original injury seems healed now (not sure about the ankle thing vs UK) and Isaiah Bond is back to at least 75-80% so I think we have a much better showing vs Georgia in round 2. Of course we must get past aggy first and they're going to pull out all the stops trying to stonewall us.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:31 am to captdalton
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It is really hard to beat the same top 10 team twice in one season. It rarely happens, but when it does the two teams usually end up splitting.
Is it? I hear this saying but is it true?
Bama beat UF two times in 1999.
Florida beat Auburn twice in 2000.
Tennessee and LSU split in 2001 (home team won first game and lost neutral site)
Auburn beat Tennessee twice in 2004.
LSU beat UGA twice in 2006.
Auburn beat SC twice in 2010.
UGA went 1-1 vs Auburn in 2017 (home team won first game)
UGA went 1-1 vs Bama in 2021 (both games neutral)
In total the team that won the first game won the second in 5 of the 8 rematches. In none of those 3 cases did the team win the first game on the road and then lose the rematch at a neutral site.
UGA beat Texas in the first matchup on the road.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:36 am to Gator Fever
I think there’s a pretty good chance at chaos between this week and the championship games and next week outside of a team like Georgia and Ohio State and Oregon. It’s gonna be crazy.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:40 am to DawginSC
I'm pretty certain tha Ohio State beat Penn State at Penn State which is a second ranked win. 
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:43 am to VABuckeye
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I'm pretty certain tha Ohio State beat Penn State at Penn State which is a second ranked win.
Adjusted. Doesn't fundamentally change the point of the post. Still have half the playoff teams with no wins over ranked teams.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:58 am to DawginSC
The 'top 25' is a dumbed down final ranking that is only to help casuals understand general rankings.
Any serious computer rankings calculate across all teams, no one in the committee is naive or simple enough that thinking once someone hits #26 the information is meaningless both for wins, and for losses which a lot of the teams complaining have some extremely embarrassing losses they'd prefer to sweep under the rug.
Any serious computer rankings calculate across all teams, no one in the committee is naive or simple enough that thinking once someone hits #26 the information is meaningless both for wins, and for losses which a lot of the teams complaining have some extremely embarrassing losses they'd prefer to sweep under the rug.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:59 am to Ancient Astronaut
I think I would rather see a lot of teams that might not belong than a lot of teams who have recently proven they don't belong.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:05 pm to DawginSC
Agreed.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:22 pm to DawginSC
Another post from DawginSC about ranked wins? Frick yeah!
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:59 pm to DawginSC
Big 10 is grossly overated South Carolina would mud hole Oregon and OSU…..
Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:25 pm to DawginSC
Yet another reason why unlimited TP, unregulated NIL and many-team tournaments ruin the product.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:46 pm to DawginSC
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This isn't saying they're bad. They are just unproven.
We've been discussing it here for years — in order to have an effective (and legitimate) playoff, you must have one of two things:
1. Schedule parity, similar to the NFL or teams within the same conference, division, etc.
2. An objective ranking system that takes into account SOS, similar to the NET in college basketball or the BCS
In this current scenario, we have neither.
Imagine college basketball without the NET, when we'd have the 216th best team in America making the NCAA Tournament in March just because they're 22–9, without ever considering who they've actually played.
To solely consider a team's record makes absolutely no sense.
But the media loves to do this over and over in college football, and for some reason they tend to forget this very obvious lesson after those Cinderella teams get their asses handed to them, which happens almost every single postseason.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:19 pm to captdalton
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It is really hard to beat the same top 10 team twice in one season.
We'll beat Tennessee twice if given the chance. 100 percent sure of that.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:26 pm to DawginSC
These teams will have played 12 or 13 games. They're not "unproven". They have developed their resume on the field, although not perfect, it'll work.
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