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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:33 am
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:33 am
This game is on the coaches. Period.
On defense and offense it appears we ran base the entire first half. Yes we are more talented than Cal but you still have to work on the weaknesses of your opponents regardless of talent level. The defense did adjust at halftime and started bringing pressure changed for the better but by then the time of possession was 21 minutes to 9.
On offense we ran a ton of 11 and 12 personnel. I’m tired of hearing how good our TE group is. They aren’t. Fairweather included. I understand our base offense is RPO and there are certain reads that determine presnap where you go with the football. That’s a lot to put on some young WRs. Coleman showed why true freshman don’t dominate in college football. So again falls to the coaching staff to game plan better. Thorne could be purely making the correct read and throws for what Freeze is asking him to do. We as fans would never know. This is no defense of Thorne because late in the 4th he played atrocious.
Our OL is bad. I’m not sure with any QB other than Thorne doesn’t get sacked 10 times this game if the same calls are made. We can run when just in the open field. In short yardage we still struggle.
We are -7 on the season in turnovers. That’s unacceptable regardless of who is turning it over.
We are soft. Especially on offense. Defense isn’t much more physical. You have to hit in bowl practice, spring practice, and fall practice. Yes I would hate to lose a player for an injury at practice but to build that physical play you have to do it. Our tackling was poor especially by our young DBs.
Bottom line is for everything that is going right off the field you can’t lose games at home to inferior teams. Yes I realize Cal is a much better team than NMST and they are a power 4 team but they are a bad power 4 team.
In conclusion the players and coaching have to improve now. Freeze isn’t reaching hot seat talk and shouldn’t be. But will say Auburn fans deserve better game planning week in and week out.
On defense and offense it appears we ran base the entire first half. Yes we are more talented than Cal but you still have to work on the weaknesses of your opponents regardless of talent level. The defense did adjust at halftime and started bringing pressure changed for the better but by then the time of possession was 21 minutes to 9.
On offense we ran a ton of 11 and 12 personnel. I’m tired of hearing how good our TE group is. They aren’t. Fairweather included. I understand our base offense is RPO and there are certain reads that determine presnap where you go with the football. That’s a lot to put on some young WRs. Coleman showed why true freshman don’t dominate in college football. So again falls to the coaching staff to game plan better. Thorne could be purely making the correct read and throws for what Freeze is asking him to do. We as fans would never know. This is no defense of Thorne because late in the 4th he played atrocious.
Our OL is bad. I’m not sure with any QB other than Thorne doesn’t get sacked 10 times this game if the same calls are made. We can run when just in the open field. In short yardage we still struggle.
We are -7 on the season in turnovers. That’s unacceptable regardless of who is turning it over.
We are soft. Especially on offense. Defense isn’t much more physical. You have to hit in bowl practice, spring practice, and fall practice. Yes I would hate to lose a player for an injury at practice but to build that physical play you have to do it. Our tackling was poor especially by our young DBs.
Bottom line is for everything that is going right off the field you can’t lose games at home to inferior teams. Yes I realize Cal is a much better team than NMST and they are a power 4 team but they are a bad power 4 team.
In conclusion the players and coaching have to improve now. Freeze isn’t reaching hot seat talk and shouldn’t be. But will say Auburn fans deserve better game planning week in and week out.
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:43 am to CorchJay
Same shite as last season.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 5:33 am to CorchJay
That’s a fancy way of saying we haven’t improved since last year. I’m sick and fricking tired of auburn football sucking arse. Cal is a garbage team and we let them embarrass us at home. If Thorne starts another game I’m finding something else to do on Saturdays than watch auburn football this fall.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 5:40 am to CorchJay
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Our OL is bad.
With a porous O line, could we run some bubbles, tunnels, other screens to slow down the rush?
79 just watched 2 guys run by him on one play. Gap inside. Hit someone. Hold. Whatever, but don’t just stand there.
I finished golf early yesterday. Should have played a bonus 9. I won’t build my weekend around this sort of effort.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:13 am to CorchJay
Your quarterback let you down king.
He is the same mediocre limp noodle that he always has been. Maybe he should try for one more year of eligibility. I’m sure he would improve then.
You would just be better off saying you were wrong and move on.
He is the same mediocre limp noodle that he always has been. Maybe he should try for one more year of eligibility. I’m sure he would improve then.
You would just be better off saying you were wrong and move on.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:45 am to CorchJay
You know as well as I do….there must a base in order to work them hard and wear them down during practice.
We are dealing with the ghostly demise of a collapsing Gus and the chaos of Hardin.
We have no depth. It doesn’t exist yet. One or two years to go. When one lineman goes down and upsets the cohesiveness of the entire line…..we need recruiting at that level.
We are dealing with the ghostly demise of a collapsing Gus and the chaos of Hardin.
We have no depth. It doesn’t exist yet. One or two years to go. When one lineman goes down and upsets the cohesiveness of the entire line…..we need recruiting at that level.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:51 am to CorchJay
Instead of blowing all the NIL money on shiny new WRs. Why don’t we start at the lines on both sides of the ball and build out? Elite teams dominate the lines and offensively anyway, we have been horrible on that line for far too long. I’m not even going to start on Thorne because that’s obvious.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:01 am to tilco
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That’s a fancy way of saying we haven’t improved since last year. I’m sick and fricking tired of auburn football sucking arse. Cal is a garbage team and we let them embarrass us at home. If Thorne starts another game I’m finding something else to do on Saturdays than watch auburn football this fall.
I’ve been watching Auburn since 1982. From then until the 2010’s, we had an identity. We were a hard nosed, physical team. When you played us, you knew you were going to get hit. Aggressive defenses. Punishing running game. We may lose occasionally, but you are going to feel it the next day.
Then came the Chizik/Gus years, where we went to a fast paced offense. It was fun to watch, at times, but somewhere along the way our defense got softer and we got the reputation for not developing offensive linemen, and so we stopped getting quality ones.
Then, came Harsin, where we stopped recruiting altogether.
Even after Saban went to the spread, he still got monster linemen.
I don’t know how to change the culture. It has to start in the locker room. We have to be more physical. That starts in practice. We have to be comfortable hitting. You can’t pat pads during the week and expect monsters on Saturday.
We want to be a team that nobody wants to play because they know they’re going to get hit and hit some more.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:35 am to tilco
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I’m finding something else to do on Saturdays than watch auburn football this fall.
Dove fields and deer stands for me this fall
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:31 am to CorchJay
We were a massive rebuild. It would always be 3-4 years before we know if Freeze can cut it. I think some in our fanbase are blinded to what we really are. 8-10 wins this year would be a fantastic season. Probably looking at 6-7 realistically.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:34 am to Placekicker
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Even after Saban went to the spread, he still got monster linemen.
On paper yes but their offensive lines have not been good (relatively) for a few years now. They were largely dominated again last night by USF.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:46 am to AUCE05
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We were a massive rebuild. It would always be 3-4 years before we know if Freeze can cut it. I think some in our fanbase are blinded to what we really are. 8-10 wins this year would be a fantastic season. Probably looking at 6-7 realistically.
We have enough talent to beat Cal at home. This is a team with the same losing record last year as us with a weaker schedule and I would argue less talent across the board and they handled us. I would say we were never really in that game. I would say the same about NMSU and Maryland.
Every season, Freeze is not only going to have to sell his vision to new recruits, he's going to have to re-sell it to the top talent he has on staff, now. And if what is happening on the field is chaotic and declining, he'll be trying to plug holes with too few fingers and trying to beg money from less enthusiastic investors. The days of 4-5 year builds are over. In the modern game, QB is key and Freeze gambled on that too much. Now we're going to have to ride out a season with a senior QB that hasn't improved at all and hope for the best... and we haven't yet faced a single team with a real pulse or gone on the road. I agree that we "look" like another losing season at this point, the upside seems much farther away than advertised and like it or not, the clock is going to be ticking on any SEC coach short of Vanderbilt much more quickly than it used to be. There's just too much money that needs to be invested to compete in this new college game.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:53 am to Placekicker
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From then until the 2010’s, we had an identity.
that sticks out to me like a sore pecker. It is only game 2 of year two, but we have no identity under Freeze.
We can't pass protect. We have as good a RB as there is in the SEC. Why don't we go out and establish the run, and hopefully that will slow down the rush, and we can get a passing game going? The "drop back and chunk it" isn't working.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:08 am to Placekicker
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I’ve been watching Auburn since 1982. From then until the 2010’s, we had an identity
Yes miss those Coach Dye and Tubs days. When the player put on an AU uniform under those two, you knew they were ready to play some ball.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:11 am to CorchJay
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Correct Observations
This is why you get DV’d all the time
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:18 am to CorchJay
I actually find the fact that we turned the ball over 5 times and only lost by one score pretty impressive. I'm convinced that with any halfway competent QB (one that doesn't throw 4 INTs), this is still a much improved team that can win 8-9 games this season.
Where have all the Posibarners gone?
Where have all the Posibarners gone?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:26 am to AUveritas
The game wasn't nearly as close as the score, we were given one touchdown and they missed a 20 yard fg. It should have been closer to 24 7
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:28 am to CorchJay
The Oline is fine. Is it great? No, but they have to face a bear front with constant blitzing each week because your and jang’s boy is one of the worst QBs in the country. Get a QB in there that starts making defenders pay, and the Oline will look drastically better.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:28 am to RandySavage
How many of their points (or almost points) came off of turnovers, though?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:29 am to AUveritas
I was stunned that it wasn't 28-7 going into the half, just shows that while Cal is better than us on the field... they aren't that great if they didn't take full advantage of the game.
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