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FSU and Clemson to the Big Ten per Brett McMurphy
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:49 am
Heard him on Paul Finebaum mention this. I know he’s usually pretty well informed, so maybe FSU/Clemson have indeed figured out a way out of the grant of rights?
Then, at the SEC meetings in Destin, Florida’s AD seemed open the idea. Kind of makes you go, “Hmmmm”.
Then, at the SEC meetings in Destin, Florida’s AD seemed open the idea. Kind of makes you go, “Hmmmm”.
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:52 am to Amarillo Tide
Wouldn't be mad if true, I want UNC.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:35 pm to Amarillo Tide
I think the SEC should try to prevent the Big Ten from getting into the SEC footprint.
The Big Ten has some great names in the Midwest and Pacific Coast but the demographic story for large chunks of their footprint is slow or negative growth. On the other hand, the SEC is largely a contiguous region of population growth. This buoyed by Florida, Georgia, and Texas but Tennessee is growing at a rate that would mean they'd be entitled to another congressional seat in the 2030s.
I think keeping the Big Ten out of the Deep South and expanding into the Upper South (North Carolina and Virginia) are a necessary firewall to assure that the SEC is the first destination for a growing population region in the country.
This is sorta "demographics is destiny" talk but I truly believe the population movements to the Midwest and Pacific created their early athletics dominance and the current Southern (mostly SEC) excellence is due to a migration back into the Eastern Sun Belt and Deep South.
The Big Ten has some great names in the Midwest and Pacific Coast but the demographic story for large chunks of their footprint is slow or negative growth. On the other hand, the SEC is largely a contiguous region of population growth. This buoyed by Florida, Georgia, and Texas but Tennessee is growing at a rate that would mean they'd be entitled to another congressional seat in the 2030s.
I think keeping the Big Ten out of the Deep South and expanding into the Upper South (North Carolina and Virginia) are a necessary firewall to assure that the SEC is the first destination for a growing population region in the country.
This is sorta "demographics is destiny" talk but I truly believe the population movements to the Midwest and Pacific created their early athletics dominance and the current Southern (mostly SEC) excellence is due to a migration back into the Eastern Sun Belt and Deep South.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:24 pm to RTN
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Wouldn't be mad if true, I want UNC.
Why?
I’d rather have the closer schools with better fanbases. If we’re gonna have mega conferences, I wouldn’t mind UNC, but I’d much rather see a game at FSU or Clemson than at UNC.
I like sports other than football, but everything else is a postseason sport so I don’t care as much about the conference composition.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:23 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Booooo to Tallanasty and Lake Auburn.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:00 pm to TomRollTideRitter
FSU
Clemson
UNC
VA Tech
Clemson
UNC
VA Tech
Posted on 5/30/24 at 5:47 pm to Diego Ricardo
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This is sorta "demographics is destiny" talk but I truly believe the population movements to the Midwest and Pacific created their early athletics dominance and the current Southern (mostly SEC) excellence is due to a migration back into the Eastern Sun Belt and Deep South.
The early northern dominance was in part because of population and in part the fact that they started playing football 30 years earlier, at a time when many southern universities were smoldering ruins from the Civil War. The Pacific teams were not as successful until a little later.
Today, recruiting is national. Most of the population growth in the south is coming from immigration from Central America and India and internal migration of middle class whites away from higher tax areas. These are not the demographics by and large that make up SEC rosters.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:46 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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The early northern dominance was in part because of population and in part the fact that they started playing football 30 years earlier, at a time when many southern universities were smoldering ruins from the Civil War. The Pacific teams were not as successful until a little later.
Today, recruiting is national. Most of the population growth in the south is coming from immigration from Central America and India and internal migration of middle class whites away from higher tax areas. These are not the demographics by and large that make up SEC rosters.
Fair points but population growth is a good indicator of more high school graduates ergo more elite athletic prospects.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:52 pm to Amarillo Tide
Terrible move if the SEC let this happen, FSU and Clemson belong in the SEC.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:06 pm to remaster916
It won't matter, at this point everyone will be in one league soon enough.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:48 pm to Amarillo Tide
I'd rather FSU than Clemson.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:57 pm to CrimsonCrusade
Blacks moving back to South is well documented.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 3:01 am to Amarillo Tide
One thing we know is that Sankey will be a day late and a dollar short. And whatever happens he will try to use it to hurt Alabama.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:35 am to tattoo
The people moving South are primarily from New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, and California. Illegals are everywhere, not just in the South.
They’re pouring into VA, NC, SC, GA, TN and FL.
They’re pouring into VA, NC, SC, GA, TN and FL.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:37 am to East Coast Band
Some combination of UNC, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Virginia is what I’d like to see.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:09 am to Amarillo Tide
quote:it's easy, just have a player sue about it and the courts will instantly do whatever the player wanted, that's the new standard.
so maybe FSU/Clemson have indeed figured out a way out of the grant of rights?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:40 am to Diego Ricardo
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I think the SEC should try to prevent the Big Ten from getting into the SEC footprint.
This.
If FSU and Clemson are going free agent, and you'd rather see them go to the Big Ten than enter the SEC, you're either ignorant, short-sighted, bitter, or some combination of the three
inb4 "but they don't expand the footprint"
As if FSU and Clemsons' combined brands aren't >>> UF + SC for the past decade or so
Posted on 5/31/24 at 3:15 pm to narddogg81
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it's easy, just have a player sue about it and the courts will instantly do whatever the player wanted, that's the new standard.
I mean, basically making a player play in a conference is pretty much akin to keeping them in chains. Conferences are slave owners. So are teams. And schools.
End them all!!! (just leave someone to pay)
Posted on 5/31/24 at 3:18 pm to Chad4Bama
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:12 pm to Chad4Bama
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VA Tech
Virginia not Va Tech. You want THE state university, not the 2nd rate add on. You want Alabama, not Auburn.
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