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BAMA: Downs’s father basically just said Bama got the death penalty with Saban retirement
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:33 pm
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The whole coaching staff is gone. Obviously, Nick Saban and his X-and-O wisdom and scheme, and playing for the G.O.A.T., and running his defense — he was the stabilizing force. Charles (Kelly) left (for Colorado and is now at Auburn). Pete Golding left (for Ole Miss). Saban retired. T-Rob (Travaris Robinson left Alabama for Georgia). Guys like Sam Petitto, he spent a lot of time with. Freddie Roach and Robert Gillespie are still there. But every coach he built a relationship with and taught him the defense, they all left.
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"It's essentially a new football program."
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I don’t think Kalen thought this was going to be a gut rebuild
If his dad is saying this, I would imagine the exodus is not done.
Either no one wanted to follow Saban and declined the opportunity and Byrne was stuck with DeBoer or Bryrne really fricked this up.
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This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:36 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Pete Golding left
Well, at least there's something positive about what he had to say?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:37 pm to Covingtontiger77
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quote: "It's essentially a new football program."
Really is in some sense. I wouldn’t say death penalty level but definitely setting the program back at least 2 year in recruiting.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:41 pm to Covingtontiger77
I'm sure it's difficult for Bama fans to fathom, but these top recruits chose to go there for Saban not for "Alabama".
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:46 pm to Covingtontiger77
i thought the bammer brand and program was bigger than just saban?
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:47 pm to Covingtontiger77
Got news for Downs, at a new school, he will be starting over as well with a whole new coaching staff.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:49 pm to Covingtontiger77
Saban had no plan. He basically said it in his interview. The players felt insulted. This is not rocket science.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
I am kinda shocked that a new coach is coming in with new systems and ideas… shocked I tell you.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:52 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Either no one wanted to follow Saban and declined the opportunity and Byrne was stuck with DeBoer or Bryrne really fricked this up.
This is why you have to either hire a Saban disciple or a phenomenal recruiter. The number one priority should’ve been keeping our current team together.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:54 pm to Covingtontiger77
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death penalty
What? Are they Vanderbilt now?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:00 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Downs’s father basically just said Bama got the death penalty with Saban retirement
Saban was special…NOT Alabama
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If his dad is saying this, I would imagine the exodus is not done
It’s about to get biblical.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:03 pm to Covingtontiger77
When your girlfriend needs space after you lose your job.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:06 pm to Covingtontiger77
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If his dad is saying this…
He just doesn’t want to admit that his son is getting a bagful of money and was tampered with. It is another business decision. Best of luck to the kid.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:29 pm to Covingtontiger77
Nobody better to tear down Bama than the one guy they revered
Saban brought the Dynasty down with him
Saban brought the Dynasty down with him
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:49 pm to Covingtontiger77
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It's essentially a new football program."
College football now in the age of nil really is like the stock market. Boom and busts and recoveries again. More so now than ever before. And every once in a while you have flashes in the pan like UW or TCU, just like hot stocks that eventually fell hard. Because you were once good before doesn’t mean as much now in this new world. Why can’t Georgia be the new Bama and go on a 10 year run or Ole Miss or LSU. Look at pro sports. All the dynasties fell eventually. College football had all the talent concentrated in basically 4 schools every year. But not anymore. We have all been through periods of our teams being irrelevant. Once the momentum goes the other way it takes a very long time for it to reverse. Especially in a portal world. Bama fans super naive to think this never was going to happen to them. Like patriots fans who never saw them have a losing season ever lol.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:07 am to Covingtontiger77
Signing with and playing for Alabama when Saban was the HC provided NFL potential players an estimated 7-8 spot higher draft pick than they would have had elsewhere, according to some data. Anyone with eyes could see that if you played at a high level under Saban at Alabama you were going to make it to the NFL and when you did most likely several rounds higher than you would have otherwise. That is not the case today....it may prove to be but as of 1/18/2024 there is NO data to suggest that a new coach would retain that level of success for individual players. That data DOES exist for UGA under Smart and maybe 2-3 other coaches. Not at the same level...Saban made it happen for more often...but it does exist at other places and arguably Kirby Smart may be the best in CFB at it right now. If a major factor in playing for Alabama was being coached by Saban it'd be foolish to assume the next guy will have that kind of ability...to develop and highlight strengths in games with lots of eyes on them and up your draft stock. It may well happen, he may be better than Saban, but the data is inconclusive at Alabama for the moment while it is pretty well established in Athens and a handful of other places...
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:19 am to Covingtontiger77
Bama cheated more. Even delusional gumps will come to recognize this eventuality. This isn’t surprising. That doesn’t make it any less fun, though.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 7:20 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:37 am to Covingtontiger77
most LSU fans feel this because after O ran us into the ground after 2019 and got let go...we were down to between 36-39 players on scholarship and some of those were former walk ons who were given scholarships.
i mean it was so bad that we had to have a WR play qb in our bowl game
luckily we hired BK who was able to salvage the last two years but he had to do so with a defensive coaching staff he had to piece together. Luckily he got denbrock, sloan and hankton for offense and they were able to put together a great plana nd help the day to day stuff along with frank.
we are just now recovering fully and still have problems at certain positions and just now able to build the coaching staff as BK wanted
Bama will experience many of the same things. look at the exodus from A&M etc. KD will have to build staff from previous stops and then he will have to somehow stabilize the program and then in like 2 years build the staff as he sees fit to actually win at a high level in this conference. if he cant.....they will be looking for a new coach in years.
i mean it was so bad that we had to have a WR play qb in our bowl game
luckily we hired BK who was able to salvage the last two years but he had to do so with a defensive coaching staff he had to piece together. Luckily he got denbrock, sloan and hankton for offense and they were able to put together a great plana nd help the day to day stuff along with frank.
we are just now recovering fully and still have problems at certain positions and just now able to build the coaching staff as BK wanted
Bama will experience many of the same things. look at the exodus from A&M etc. KD will have to build staff from previous stops and then he will have to somehow stabilize the program and then in like 2 years build the staff as he sees fit to actually win at a high level in this conference. if he cant.....they will be looking for a new coach in years.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:52 am to Covingtontiger77
I have a feeling that after a short transition period, maybe 2 seasons, Bama will be fine.
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