re: Official Coaching Staff Discussion Thread

Just the dumbasses, most of us like the hires.

In fact Stallings won with many of Curry’s recruits.

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In fact Stallings won with many of Curry’s recruits.

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Copeland was a JUCO.

Good morning, except for all the trolls who are here to cause pain. you can go back to whatever hole you climbed out of. I wanted to give a little perspective, having lived a freakin long time. I was in high school when Bear died and was a freshman in the second season after. The first season after Bear was pretty successful but recruiting had slipped badly and the cupboard was bare. Even with a train wreck of a roster they still managed to upset Auburn and the following year they bounced back and were very competitive. Bama never stays down.

At that time Bama was overrun with meddling power players. They all had their vision of how to proceed and it was a train wreck waiting to happen and it did. That situation was not resolved until Saban came in and nixed the whole thing. When the GOAT retired we had a strong AD in place who was strong enough to take this process over and immediately move on a solution. It probably helped that Saban himself is still there and was able to give valuable input. Saban will remain an invaluable resource for the new staff going forward.

Finally my most important point. The coaches that failed after Bear did not fail because they were after Bear. They failed for their own shortcomings. Perkins was not particularly suited for college ball. He was a great pro coach and had a long career before and after that. Bill Curry was not a great coach at all. Stallings was a great coach but was too old to go very far. Dubose was wholly unqualified to be a head coach when chosen. Franchione was a good choice on paper but simply turned out to be a back stabbing piece of garbage. That was not on us, that was on him. Mike Price also had a good resume but was too old and apparently was an alcoholic. I don't know if that was discoverable. Mike Shula did stabelize the program and was not a terrible coach, but he like Perkins was more suited to the pro game.

DeBore is qualified, has a strong track record, at the college level, it's almost impossible in todays internet age to hide an alcohol problem, and having seen his wife it's unlikely he's shaggin the secretary. Given all the evidence he should be able to succeed at the highest levels at Alabama. Our rival fans will try to convince themselves that this is a train wreck, they will point to past failures. But 2024 is not 1983.

There was a reluctance to pay top dollar for a head coach at that time, too. The notion was that the Alabama job was too prestigious to require that.

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Mike Shula did stabelize the program and was not a terrible coach, but he like Perkins was more suited to the pro game.

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Shula did far more to stabilize the program than many want to admit. He had a lot of shite to deal with and managed to win 10 games in 2005. He took a job that nobody else wanted and kept it from imploding until Saban got here.

The Shula years were tough but anyone that wants to say that Shula wasn't a good coach doesn't know shite about football.

Amen. Shula did a real solid for his University in my opinion. The job was absolutely toxic after the Price fiasco.

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Cecil

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Miss that guy. Would have been awesome to follow his coverage of Saban’s retirement and subsequent DeBoer hiring.

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Shula did far more to stabilize the program than many want to admit. He had a lot of shite to deal with and managed to win 10 games in 2005. He took a job that nobody else wanted and kept it from imploding until Saban got here.

The Shula years were tough but anyone that wants to say that Shula wasn't a good coach doesn't know shite about football.

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Say what you will about Shula, but there's a reason he has managed to stick around the NFL in various capacities for the last 17 years. His competency as a coach is just somewhere around good position coach/average coordinator. That doesn't make him a bad coach though. Being a good HC means you have to be great with organization, time management, delegation, etc. on top of actually coaching football. Not everyone is cut out for it.

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There was Forrest Davis's recruiting magazine, and Lindy's. I was always partial to Forrest Davis's. The cool thing was for all the high school players to have nicknames. Rory Turner, "The Black Assassin", Willie Shepherd, "The Police". Thankfully, that trend sort of died out.

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Funny story. When 'The Black Assassin' was a freshman he goes to tackle this Ole Miss Fullback and got ran over like a freight train over a toddler. He ends up flat on his back spread eagle facing the sky. The Fullback scored. We were all laughing at his nickname that day. But he went on to be a solid player. In fact I think he's the one that took Bo out (or was it fullwood) on the wrong way play.