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The SEC is down b/c of coaching and player development
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:57 am
I know some of you will say it's only one season. But, in reality the SEC has been down (save UGA) for 3-4 seasons now. And, I've been saying the reason is not bad QB play. Rather, bad QB is a symptom of my theory which is that coaching and player development is bad in the SEC. As good as Kirby and staff recruits they seem to make their guys better once they get them on campus. I think Kiffin and Drink do great things with less than many of their colleagues. I think Brian Kelly has slowly made LSU into a program that is a tier behind Ole Miss. And, I think Saban has always been as good as his assistants are and he can't seem to make the great assistant hires like he could in the past.
Contrast this to Harbaugh. We know Harbaugh can coach his butt off. Harbaugh won at the University of San Diego, Stanford, the 49ers, and now at Michigan. His current team only has 2-5 star players. Yet, his players are as big as any SEC team and this season Harbaugh would have the most physical team in the SEC. This Michigan team would have won the SEC this season. And, the biggest advantage that Harbaugh has is he and the Ravens seem to be running an assistant coach farm system.
Contrast this to Harbaugh. We know Harbaugh can coach his butt off. Harbaugh won at the University of San Diego, Stanford, the 49ers, and now at Michigan. His current team only has 2-5 star players. Yet, his players are as big as any SEC team and this season Harbaugh would have the most physical team in the SEC. This Michigan team would have won the SEC this season. And, the biggest advantage that Harbaugh has is he and the Ravens seem to be running an assistant coach farm system.
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:58 am to Shaft Williams
ehhh
Kiffin has ole miss at a good place
Heupel has UT beating Iowa easily
LSU finished the year well
UGA/Bama/ are solid.
id argue we still have 5-7 really good teams in this league.
Kiffin has ole miss at a good place
Heupel has UT beating Iowa easily
LSU finished the year well
UGA/Bama/ are solid.
id argue we still have 5-7 really good teams in this league.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:59 am to Shaft Williams
Disagree. The transfer portal and NIL are leveling the playing field. The years of SEC teams stockpiling talent are over.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:01 pm to Shaft Williams
I’ve always been of the opinion that coaching in the SEC has been subpar for over a decade. Bailed out by superior depth in trench athletes.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:08 pm to Shaft Williams
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The SEC is down
I wouldn’t overreact to one year. Or, even two. But, the days of guaranteeing $ have to end. SEC has lost its competitive edge.
What’s the point of celebrating 5*’s or landing a new coach if they’re going to be fat, lazy & unmotivated? The league as a whole looks softer than usual.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:12 pm to Shaft Williams
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SEC is down
Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Mizzou had move the needle type bowl wins.
You can’t say SEC is down when Mizzou beats Ohio State, Ole Miss beats Penn State, and Tennessee destroys Iowa and puts up 35 on their elite defense.
If SEC is down, who’s up? Pac12 seemed to have their best year ever, but Miss State beat their 3rd best team.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:16 pm to Shaft Williams
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I think Brian Kelly has slowly made LSU into a program that is a tier behind Ole Miss.
Lol wut?
Kelly is 20-7 over the past two seasons, Kiffin is 19-7.
LSU beat Ole Miss by 25 last year at home and lost this year by 6 on the road.
At worst, they're equal.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:34 pm to Shaft Williams
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coaching and player development is bad in the SEC
It’s a 2 way street. Kid doesn’t see the field immediately he’s in the portal making 2-3 stops in 5 years and never sits still long enough to develop into a good player in that system or style.
Kiffin takes a lot of portal kids and develops them into great players too so development is still happening. It just depends on the staff. Coaches know they have to win now and a lot of them don’t have the luxury of 3-4 year “project” recruits. If you can’t help me win today I’m not interested.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:42 pm to Shaft Williams
When you steal signs weeks ahead of your games for 3 years it’s easy to rack up wins.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:52 pm to Shaft Williams
Well if there’s and SEC team that would take Ryan Day, he’ll be available in less than a year. So there’s that
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:59 pm to Shaft Williams
The SEC isn't down. QB is the most important position in team sports and the SEC loaded an unprecedented amount of QB talent to the NFL. Ole Miss, Missouri and LSU had QBs return, thus good seasons.
The SEC wasn't down, the big brand SEC schools lost NFL QB talent at the same time.
Bama
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
The SEC wasn't down, the big brand SEC schools lost NFL QB talent at the same time.
Bama
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:01 pm to Shaft Williams
Saban has lost his fastball.
He's just one of several elite coaches instead of the head and shoulders GOAT.
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