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ESPN op ed nails it
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:42 am
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:42 am
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:45 am to jamespatterson
FSU was screwed - they deserved to be in over Michigan -
1 Washington
2 FSU
3 Alabama
4 Georgia
Michigan had the worst SOS of anyone in the CFP Top 10 rankings after Saturday's games were complete -
committee left out the WRONG 13-0 conference champ - it should've been the Little10 winner -
1 Washington
2 FSU
3 Alabama
4 Georgia
Michigan had the worst SOS of anyone in the CFP Top 10 rankings after Saturday's games were complete -
committee left out the WRONG 13-0 conference champ - it should've been the Little10 winner -
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:46 am to jamespatterson
Do you honestly think FSU is better than Bama? Or are you just mad that Bama might win another NC?
Like another poster said on another thread, they dropped a team because they felt like they would be less competitive than another team. Almost as if they put the better team in like it was designed
Like another poster said on another thread, they dropped a team because they felt like they would be less competitive than another team. Almost as if they put the better team in like it was designed
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:52 am to jamespatterson
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:56 am to jamespatterson
The system of letting this secret committee making these decisions behind closed doors should be abolished entirely.
This will never be forgotten what happened to FSU.
This will never be forgotten what happened to FSU.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:11 am to jamespatterson
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Yes, Florida State is without starting QB Jordan Travis, meaning it would have to play with a quarterback who wasn't its opening-week starter in order to win a national title, and of course that couldn't happen. After all, only 2014 Ohio State, 2017 Alabama, 2018 Clemson and 2021 Georgia did that. What are the odds that something that's happened 44% of the time would happen again?
Nailed it.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:14 am to jamespatterson
IF, Jordan Travis was still playing FSU would be in, simple as that. They struggled against two much lesser opponents, and they would get smashed by anyone in the top 6!
If FSU played Bama this coming Saturday at a neutral site, who would win? BAMA!
If FSU played Bama this coming Saturday at a neutral site, who would win? BAMA!
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:15 am to jamespatterson
Bama fans think everyone is mad because we just hate Bama (while ignoring the only reason they really think Bama deserves to be in is because they want Bama to be in.) But he encapsulates the real reason everyone is mad over Bama getting in over FSU…
Whatever committee did was make both the regular season and even Power 5 conference championship games meaningless.
He also destroyed the excuse of FSU losing their QB as a valid reason to drop them in favor of Bama…
And he got down to the real reason the committee did what they did…
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Then we moved to a four-team playoff, and the whole point was to eliminate the hypotheticals and let a champion be crowned by the actual results on the field. If you won your games, you had a chance to win a national title.
Turns out, all of that was a charade. None of it mattered. The games are pointless. What happens on the field is less important than what a committee thinks might happen in a future matchup.
It is an absolute slap in the face to every player who has ever put on a helmet, laced up cleats and marched onto the field to battle for a victory, because a bunch of folks in a conference room in Texas decided their sacrifice was not as important as the Las Vegas line on a potential playoff matchup.
Whatever committee did was make both the regular season and even Power 5 conference championship games meaningless.
He also destroyed the excuse of FSU losing their QB as a valid reason to drop them in favor of Bama…
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Yes, Florida State is without starting QB Jordan Travis, meaning it would have to play with a quarterback who wasn't its opening-week starter in order to win a national title, and of course that couldn't happen. After all, only 2014 Ohio State, 2017 Alabama, 2018 Clemson and 2021 Georgia did that. What are the odds that something that's happened 44% of the time would happen again?
And sure, FSU's passing game was a mess in the ACC championship game. No argument there. Funny thing though: FSU won its title game by more than Alabama did. In fact, FSU has won its past two games by more than Alabama has. And since Travis got hurt in Week 12 against North Alabama, the Seminoles have thrown for just 8 fewer yards than Michigan has in that same stretch, but there was no debate about Michigan.
Oh, and this is probably irrelevant in the face of such a poor quarterback performance against Louisville, but there's also the small matter that the QB who started that game, Brock Glenn, wouldn't be the QB starting a playoff game (since Tate Rodemaker would be out of concussion protocol by then).
The committee cared about one stat when making this decision: FSU's 55 passing yards against Louisville.
Here are the stats it ignored: Seven sacks, 14 tackles for loss, 10 passes defended, 189 rushing yards against a stacked box, a 10-point win over a top-15 team with a QB making his first career start.
And he got down to the real reason the committee did what they did…
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Let's be real about what happened here: The committee members couldn't leave the SEC out of the playoff. They didn't care that Alabama needed a miracle to avoid a loss to 6-6 Auburn two weeks ago. They didn't care that Georgia's own injuries -- playing with a banged-up Ladd McConkey and Brock Bowers -- likely played a large part in why the Tide won Saturday. They didn't care that the ACC has a winning record, head-to-head, against the SEC this season. They didn't care that Alabama beat 2023 Georgia, not 2021 or 2022 Georgia. They cared that Alabama and the SEC had to have a spot in the playoff by birthright. And as a result, they sent a message that what happened on the field -- the blood, tears and sacrifice that players made all season to win every game on their schedule -- was less important than getting the most compelling TV matchup.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:18 am to jamespatterson
ESPN staff writer for the ACC conference. Gee, I wonder what his take will be.
DNR
DNR
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:25 am to jamespatterson
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The committee, as usual, makes up the rules to fit its decision.
That line sums up the committee every year. The rules change from year to year.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:41 am to jamespatterson
Who loses worse, Michigan having to face any SEC team in the playoffs, or FSU having to play Georgia in the Orange Bowl?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:15 am to jamespatterson
SEC rant: ESPN rigged the committee to put Alabama in the playoff!
SEC rant: ESPN says FSU was robbed!
SEC rant: ESPN says FSU was robbed!
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:34 am to jamespatterson
That’s convenient… after everyone else at ESPN screwed them over
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:49 am to jamespatterson
blah blah blah . . . IRRELEVANT
The Committee has spoken.
AND anybody who thinks that they would leave Saban's Bama team OUT and put FSU in just isn't thinking clearly.
Final Note: in this league, it's always been a subjective thing when it comes to winning it all - the polls have always been very subjective and based on human emotions, feelings, "eye-test". Compare to English Association Football and how they determine Promotion and Relegation - absolutely NO subjectivity there.
The powers that be LIKE it this way. They LIKE having Saban's Alabama as the King of College Football.
The Committee has spoken.
AND anybody who thinks that they would leave Saban's Bama team OUT and put FSU in just isn't thinking clearly.
Final Note: in this league, it's always been a subjective thing when it comes to winning it all - the polls have always been very subjective and based on human emotions, feelings, "eye-test". Compare to English Association Football and how they determine Promotion and Relegation - absolutely NO subjectivity there.
The powers that be LIKE it this way. They LIKE having Saban's Alabama as the King of College Football.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:00 am to jamespatterson
FSU has every right to be upset...just not with Bama. Alabama earned it on the field. 12-1 SEC champ. Best resume. Beat no. 1 on the last weekend on a neutral field. That team has to get in.
Bama deserved to be in more than anyone and all ppl can hang on to is the fact we were ranked 8th and moved up to 4th. That's it. Bama should have never been 8th anyways.
ACC is not a real P5 league. Should Liberty have gotten in? They won all their games. What more could they do?
I feel bad for them but it was an odd year. Any other season they go 13-0 then they'd be in no doubt.
Bama deserved to be in more than anyone and all ppl can hang on to is the fact we were ranked 8th and moved up to 4th. That's it. Bama should have never been 8th anyways.
ACC is not a real P5 league. Should Liberty have gotten in? They won all their games. What more could they do?
I feel bad for them but it was an odd year. Any other season they go 13-0 then they'd be in no doubt.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:09 am to jamespatterson
ESPN led the charge to get Bama in, now they're trying to have it both ways and pretend they're incensed about FSU getting snubbed
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:04 am to jamespatterson
Bama would destroy fsu.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:09 am to jamespatterson
Only 4 teams can get in. Someone was going to be outraged.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:30 am to jamespatterson
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FSU screwed
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:46 am to jamespatterson
sMU really got screwed as well.
We don't like the BCS. We don't like the Committee.
Just reduce to 64 teams. Play 10 x Conference games. Play a 64 team seeded playoff and be done with all of the bitching.
2008 Pats we're 11-5 and missed the playoffs. 8-8 Chargers made it though. And, that is a league with a lot more parity. Things happen in playoff formats.
Next year, it won't get better. Likely only worse as there is much less separating #10-20.
We don't like the BCS. We don't like the Committee.
Just reduce to 64 teams. Play 10 x Conference games. Play a 64 team seeded playoff and be done with all of the bitching.
2008 Pats we're 11-5 and missed the playoffs. 8-8 Chargers made it though. And, that is a league with a lot more parity. Things happen in playoff formats.
Next year, it won't get better. Likely only worse as there is much less separating #10-20.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 11:56 am
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