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The US needs to fight back, and do so before it's our daughters being groomed.

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The US will never fight back against Islam's growth here inside the USA. Never.

She will persuade some man somewhere to pay her student loan debt, and the exchange will involve sexual activity.

Are we supposed to be offended or titillated?

Neither. I'm disgusted by them.

Looks like AI, too.

She fine.

This is a very interesting thread. I did not know anything about Rabbi Scmuley's activities, but, I certainly do understand his motives.

I do not consume Leftist propaganda, so I don't consume the products of mass media.

Joe Biden.

I don't think that Ireland can vote its way out of this mess.

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Suppose the South is allowed to just walk away? What happens?

* The planters run the South into the ground. The South didn't have a strong middle class as did the north. The planters did not invest much in universities, libraries, education, etc.

* The planters focus on growing an agricultural economy and see industrialization as a threat. As the North industrialized even more, the South would have fallen even further behind. The South, though free, would eventually become an economic colony of the North.

Just look at Mississippi. The planters built universities in rural areas where only the upper classes could go to school. No urban universities were the majority of the population lived. Fought industrialization as he meant the planters in the Delta would lose power. The planters fought most reforms.

* The slaves. In several states such as Mississippi, the slaves outnumbered the whites. That would eventually cause problems.

By comparison, look at how Germany, once industrialized, left most countries around it behind.

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Great post. Thought provoking and people should read it.

I agree that in your scenarios, the wealthy Southern Plantation Owning Class would have fought all reforms, growth and industrialization because they would see all of these things as threats to their own wealth, power, prestige and the wealth power and prestige of their children and grandchildren. They would have wanted to bequeath the exact same South to their Grandchildren and their Wives would have expected them to work for nothing other than that.

Great post. I think it hits the nail on the head. I agree we can see the outlines of this exact frame of mind here today in the modern South among that demographic of people.

Important point - the white women of the South would have been very important motivators of their husbands in the work needed for the Plantation Class to bequeath the Old South on down to the Grandchildren. Anything other than that would have been seen as losing prestige and status, which would be viewed as absolutely intolerable (this attitude was a large factor in why the South went to war in the first place).

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And disclaimer: I graduated from catholic grammar & high school, college degree from Catholic college, coached and taught at a prominent catholic school.

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What Protestant denomination's church do you now attend?