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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:07 pm to Granola
Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:07 pm to Granola
After an otherwise rough basketball weekend the ladies defeated Mississippi State in Coleman today and are currently in 5th place in the SEC. Sarah Barker was recognized pre game for achieving 1,000 career points and Aaliyah Nye set the UA record for 3 pointers in a season during the game - currently sitting at 94 with games left to play. Bama won 87-75.
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:25 pm to SECFan413
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they still try to play too aggressive and pick guys up 35 feet from the basket
I’ve wondered about this as well.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:55 am to dirtsandwich
Coach hod at arkansas state has the #1 offense in the sunbelt and just set the school record for 3pm in a season.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:05 am to pioneerbasketball
Curious here. Does anyone in the NBA run a system similar to Oats? Would his system translate in the NBA? I dont watch the NBA while the college game is in full swing and dont have a team that I care to pull for. Who knows, KC may get a team again. I liked the Kings when Nate Archibald played for them.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:29 am to mrbroker
Wipe the slate clean.
Getting Wague and Wrightsell back.
4 to play with a chance to win the regular season. Let that sink in for a second.
Let's go! RTR!
Getting Wague and Wrightsell back.
4 to play with a chance to win the regular season. Let that sink in for a second.
Let's go! RTR!
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:44 am to mrbroker
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Does anyone in the NBA run a system similar to Oats?
Maybe it would be more accurate to say Oats runs the system most all NBA teams run. For example. Oats doesn't play zone defense, and NBA outlaws zone defenses. Oats plays fast, and the NBA has a 24 second clock requiring teams to play fast. Oats wants to play 5 out for spacing on offense, and most all NBA teams do that. NBA teams may have 7'2" 350 lb big men, many from Eastern Europe, but those guys can all shoot threes. Oats signed in the fall Aiden Sherrell, whom he calls our ideal center. Sherrell is 6'10" 215 and can drain threes. Oats would love to have Ryan Kalkbrenner from Creighton but not Zach Edey because Kalkbrenner can drain threes, but Edey has made only 1 three this year.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:05 am to McGregor
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4 to play with a chance to win the regular season. Let that sink in for a second.
As has been said by several, Oats having this team in position for a possible conference championship and a top 16 seed in the NCAA tournament is amazing with what he lost in terms of players and assistants. It’s a flawed team that is not particularly athletic so we can all kind of see that ceiling this year. I’m not convinced there is one future NBA player on this team.
But Oats still has us enjoying a really good competitive season. Alabama’s FLOOR with Oats each season is starting to look like top 4 in the conference and tournament lock. And this year’s recruiting class is one of Bama’s best ever and Bama is becoming a big draw for HS and portal players who want to play in an NBA style offense. I believe if Oats stays another 3 years, Alabama gets a final 4 or better.
Let’s beat Ole Miss and be right back on track - Bama / UT game likely deciding the champion.
Eta: guess my posting privileges were reinstated. I’ve seen the error of my ways oh great moderators.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:20 am to mrbroker
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Curious here. Does anyone in the NBA run a system similar to Oats? Would his system translate in the NBA? I dont watch the NBA while the college game is in full swing and dont have a team that I care to pull for. Who knows, KC may get a team again. I liked the Kings when Nate Archibald played for them.
I think his approach shares some similarities to the Steve Kerr Warriors. Dubs are very much a 3pt, layup, dunk predicated offense but they do have some mid-range game because the NBA court setup incentivizes it more than college. Additionally, the Dubs defense really only works well when they have a versatile forward who can just about guard all 5 positions adequately. I'd argue the downward trend of the Dubs is directly related to Klay Thompson losing his ability on defense but even more importantly Draymond Green being completely busted.
Alabama, to that point, is basically only ever good on defense when they have someone like Herb or Clowney.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:55 am to McGregor
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Getting Wague and Wrightsell back.
Will Wrightsell be back for Ole Miss?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:11 am to AbSnopes
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Oats doesn't play zone defense, and NBA outlaws zone defenses.
Zone defense isn't technically outlawed in the NBA but the defensive 3 second rule and the fact that everyone in the NBA can shoot the lights out now, means very little zone is played. I'd actually like to see some NBA teams start trying to be a little more innovative on defense because the modern NBA is absolutely torching the 95% man to man being played. The no-hand checking rule combined with the defensive 3 second rule results in drive after drive after drive to the basket for layups/dunks and kickout threes. The skills is impressive but it's predictable and I wonder where the defensive ingenuity is to throw a wrinkle to disrupt this is. May be the offensive skill and the officiating rules are just impossible for defensives to overcome.
As for Oats I would also love to see some more defensive wrinkles. Bama's perimeter defenders are not great this year and there is no consistent rim protection (but I will give a shout to Grant Nelson who is stepping into that role pretty damn well, but still he isn't the prototypical physical rim protector). Throw some more zone in to at least make the opposing offense adjust when we are getting torched.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:15 am to elposter
going to a zone when getting torched from 3 is not a good plan.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:18 am to McGregor
Shorter arc makes zone much more feasible in college too. It is not impossible for long wing players to help inside and get out to contest a shot behind the arc.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:37 am to Diego Ricardo
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Draymond Green being completely busted.
Green is having his best season from 3 he probably has ever had, and is still a great defensive player. His biggest strength is facilitating and getting the ball to the real playmakers. Would love to have a Draymond type player for Bama.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:43 am to McGregor
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going to a zone when getting torched from 3 is not a good plan.
Certainly not typically. But I would at least rather throw a few wrinkles and try something different to get a team out of their rhythm when we are that outmatched by athletic guards. Zone isn't great against the 3 but when every ball handler on the other team is beating the man to man easily causing your entire defense to break down, I'd be willing to try and see if they could shoot over it.
Bottom line is our guards this year are just limited in terms of individual defensive ability and we don't have a strong defensive front court to make up for it either. Not a ton Oats can do, but I think he could switch up the defensive strategy a bit more at times. Maybe he has tried zone at practice and it's been a complete disaster. Who knows.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:55 am to Diego Ricardo
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Shorter arc makes zone much more feasible in college too. It is not impossible for long wing players to help inside and get out to contest a shot behind the arc.
And the fact that there is not illegal defense in college. You can basically plant two rim protectors in the paint and just sit down on all drives past the first level. In the nba you have to be actively guarding someone in the paint within 3 seconds or it's a technical. Thats part of the reason you don't see the ginormous scoring averages in college that you do in the nba. Yes the nba game is 8 minutes longer, but it's much more difficult to have rim protection in the nba.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:17 pm to elposter
This team is just not good defensively. They don’t use leverage very well, they don’t slide to stay in front very well, they get picked way too easily - whether on the ball or chasing off the ball, they don’t read and react quick enough to get steals, they turn and watch the guy driving the ball causing them to lose track of their man, and they are slow to the ball on loose balls and long rebounds….some of it at times is effort, and some of it is just lack of skill. The biggest reason why these things are issues is because of how obvious they are against the best teams. If Bama wants to compete for national titles they’ve got to improve drastically there.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:28 pm to SECFan413
Week 17 AP Poll Top 25
1. Houston, 24-3
2. Purdue, 25-3
3. UConn, 25-3
4. Tennessee, 21-6
5. Marquette, 21-6
6. Arizona, 21-6
7. Kansas, 21-6
8. Iowa State, 21-6
9. North Carolina, 21-6
10. Duke, 21-6
11. Auburn, 21-6
12. Creighton, 20-8
13. Illinois, 20-7
14. Alabama, 19-8
15. Baylor, 19-8
16. Kentucky, 19-8
17. Saint Mary's, 23-6
18. South Carolina, 22-5
19. Washington State, 21-7
20. San Diego State, 21-7
21. Dayton, 21-5
22. Utah State, 22-5
23. Gonzaga, 22-6
24. Florida, 19-8
25. South Florida, 21-5
1. Houston, 24-3
2. Purdue, 25-3
3. UConn, 25-3
4. Tennessee, 21-6
5. Marquette, 21-6
6. Arizona, 21-6
7. Kansas, 21-6
8. Iowa State, 21-6
9. North Carolina, 21-6
10. Duke, 21-6
11. Auburn, 21-6
12. Creighton, 20-8
13. Illinois, 20-7
14. Alabama, 19-8
15. Baylor, 19-8
16. Kentucky, 19-8
17. Saint Mary's, 23-6
18. South Carolina, 22-5
19. Washington State, 21-7
20. San Diego State, 21-7
21. Dayton, 21-5
22. Utah State, 22-5
23. Gonzaga, 22-6
24. Florida, 19-8
25. South Florida, 21-5
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:51 pm to Alabama_Fan
Week 17 Coaches Poll Top 25
1 UConn (32) 25-3
2 Houston 24-3
3 Purdue 25-3
4 Arizona 21-6
5 Tennessee 21-6
6 Iowa St. 21-6
7 Duke 21-6
8 Marquette 21-6
9 N. Carolina 21-6
10 Kansas 21-6
11 Baylor 19-8
12 Illinois 20-7
13 Alabama 19-8
14 Auburn 21-6
15 Creighton 20-8
16 Dayton 21-5
17 Kentucky 19-8
18 Saint Mary's 23-6
19 San Diego St. 21-7
20 South Carolina 22-5
21 BYU 19-8
22 Washington St. 21-7
23 Texas Tech 19-8
24 Colo. St. 20-8
25 TCU 19-8
1 UConn (32) 25-3
2 Houston 24-3
3 Purdue 25-3
4 Arizona 21-6
5 Tennessee 21-6
6 Iowa St. 21-6
7 Duke 21-6
8 Marquette 21-6
9 N. Carolina 21-6
10 Kansas 21-6
11 Baylor 19-8
12 Illinois 20-7
13 Alabama 19-8
14 Auburn 21-6
15 Creighton 20-8
16 Dayton 21-5
17 Kentucky 19-8
18 Saint Mary's 23-6
19 San Diego St. 21-7
20 South Carolina 22-5
21 BYU 19-8
22 Washington St. 21-7
23 Texas Tech 19-8
24 Colo. St. 20-8
25 TCU 19-8
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:20 pm to AbSnopes
quote:Oats would take Kalkbrenner over Edey because Kalkbrenner can run the court and is athletic enough to not be a disaster when switched on a guard. 3P shooting out of the 5 spot is a bonus, not a system requirement (see Charles Bediako).
Oats would love to have Ryan Kalkbrenner from Creighton but not Zach Edey because Kalkbrenner can drain threes, but Edey has made only 1 three this year.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:21 pm to YStar
Mark seems to be passing up on open 3s lately. He's not letting it fly like he was earlier in the season. I'm not sure why.
As far as the UK game, when a team hits a shot that bounces on the top of the backboard 3 or more times, you can't really expect to win.
As far as the UK game, when a team hits a shot that bounces on the top of the backboard 3 or more times, you can't really expect to win.
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