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re: Can we talk about Freeze’s weak answer about the Georgia rivalry?
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:48 pm to jangalang
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:48 pm to jangalang
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The "compete in love" or whatever is just a bunch of Fraud Hew baloney.
Don't disagree. It was a very cringy way to put it. I still think the point he is trying to make is basically "we should be competing out of pride for who we are and our drive to represent our people". He just said it in a very Hugh fashion, which is a bit silly sometimes. Assuming that was the point he was trying to get to, I agree with it.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:50 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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It's what you replied to. Make your argument better. You think they needed hatred of their opponent in order to compete?
It’s not what I said. Hatred is a tool you use to be the best. I never said anything was anyone’s main motivation.
You said if you need to hate someone to compete, then you aren’t a competitor. Brady and MJ used it every single night. Brady is quoted as saying he would get himself to a point where he was ready to kill the motherfricker on the other sideline.
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You think they competed more for the hatred of their opponent more than for their drive to help their team?
Complicated question. It’s both at the same time. You’re creating a war in your head. Us vs them.
Maybe it’s not what Freeze meant but he’s making it sound like he doesn’t want the hate of them part of it. You need both.
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If you need a chip on your shoulder to be motivated enough to compete, you aren't truly motivated.
Again you’re arguing Jordan is not a competitor. He created a chip on his shoulder every single night.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:54 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Don't disagree. It was a very cringy way to put it. I still think the point he is trying to make is basically "we should be competing out of pride for who we are and our drive to represent our people". He just said it in a very Hugh fashion, which is a bit silly sometimes. Assuming that was the point he was trying to get to, I agree with it.
So basically you agree that it’s a weak answer from Freeze
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:This. Hatred for one particular school is fan stuff. That doesn't get you up at 6am year round for workouts, eating 7 egg whites every morning, or playing at a high level every rep every single week. Having "hate" for a particular team gets you "rah rah" for like 5 minutes before a game but doesn't win games. That dedication comes from buying into yourself and your team, and a deep desire to do the best you possible can every single day to get better.
If you need to hate someone in order to compete, you don't really have that fight in you. Sure it is a great motivator, but your drive to compete should be more internally driven, not externally.
If someone talks smack directly or in regards to a game, in the words of Jordan "and I took that personally". However, that's not hate either... that's controlled emotional response to disrespect and putting someone back in their place.
Now, do some guys get themselves mentally worked up to hating the other team during the game? Yes. But you're not doing that 24/7/365 and generally it's more of an in-game state and after that final whistle it's on to the next opponent.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:17 pm to ALhunter
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This. Hatred for one particular school is fan stuff. That doesn't get you up at 6am year round for workouts, eating 7 egg whites every morning, or playing at a high level every rep every single week. Having "hate" for a particular team gets you "rah rah" for like 5 minutes before a game but doesn't win games. That dedication comes from buying into yourself and your team, and a deep desire to do the best you possible can every single day to get better.
Now if someone talks smack directly or in regards to a game, in the words of Jordan "and I took that personally". However, that's not hate either... that's controlled emotional response to disrespect and putting someone back in their place.
Like Jang said maybe hate is wrong word but I’m still not completely convinced it is.
Jordan’s controlled emotional response that you’re talking about is the exact hate I’m referencing. Y’all seem to think I’m saying wait around until someone disrespects me or for me to play someone I hate to be motivated when that’s not the case. You build these things up in your head no matter what. Half the time Jordan said “and I took that personally” it was made up bullshite in his head. That’s what was great about him.
Also that hate/disrespect/whatever you want to call it, is what gets you up for 6am workouts, eating egg whites, and playing hard in practice. It’s definitely not a rah rah thing 5 minutes before kick off. Exactly why Kirby/Saban plaster shite all over the weight room the entire season.
When you’re working out at 6 am, you’re not saying “yeah we’re doing this for each other!”
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:27 pm to Weagle25
I want Freeze to love beating thUGA as much as Gus did Arkansas.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:37 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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If you need to hate someone in order to compete, you don't really have that fight in you. Sure it is a great motivator, but your drive to compete should be more internally driven, not externally.
Dye used to preach this to his teams.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:43 pm to Weagle25
Ah - maybe we are just using hate a lot differently. I think of it kind of like this.
"Hate" = Harvey Updyke... I wan't to kick an Auburn fan's dog. I'd cut off my toe if it means an Auburn fan loses a leg. I don't like him because his A is not the same color as my A. I wouldn't give a pregnant lady my seat because she has the wrong A.
"Disrespect" or "for yourself" = We got embarrassed by X team last year on our home field, I looked like crap against them and got runover, I couldn't contribute to my fullest because I needed to improve Y, or some other team said Z and doesn't respect us... I/we know deep down I/we are better than them, I owe it to my guys to be my best, and I'm going to go put in the work and prove it to everyone and nobody is going to stop me.
So I guess in my head the difference is that one is just a general dislike or hatred and the other is grabbing whatever you can to fuel an internal fire to compete.
"Hate" = Harvey Updyke... I wan't to kick an Auburn fan's dog. I'd cut off my toe if it means an Auburn fan loses a leg. I don't like him because his A is not the same color as my A. I wouldn't give a pregnant lady my seat because she has the wrong A.
"Disrespect" or "for yourself" = We got embarrassed by X team last year on our home field, I looked like crap against them and got runover, I couldn't contribute to my fullest because I needed to improve Y, or some other team said Z and doesn't respect us... I/we know deep down I/we are better than them, I owe it to my guys to be my best, and I'm going to go put in the work and prove it to everyone and nobody is going to stop me.
So I guess in my head the difference is that one is just a general dislike or hatred and the other is grabbing whatever you can to fuel an internal fire to compete.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:08 pm to Weagle25
He definitely could have handled that differently. You can say we want to compete and beat one of our oldest rivals and we know that’s important here at Auburn. Don’t have to say you hate them.
Coach Dye didn’t hate uga or bama, but he knew how important those rivalries are.
Guess what, you beat uga and bama, our people are gonna love the hell out of you.
Coach Dye didn’t hate uga or bama, but he knew how important those rivalries are.
Guess what, you beat uga and bama, our people are gonna love the hell out of you.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:12 pm to ALhunter
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So I guess in my head the difference is that one is just a general dislike or hatred and the other is grabbing whatever you can to fuel an internal fire to compete.
To me when you grab whatever you can to fuel the fire, you end up convincing yourself you dislike that person for gameday even if you have no real reason to dislike them.
Then afterwards you’re able to drop that dislike since you no longer need it. That’s kinda why I said it’s fake hate. Sports hate.
When I say I hate Georgia fans, that’s not real hate. Inside the arena/sports realm, yeah I hate them. But I have friends that are Georgia fans as I’m sure most of us do in real life. Same with Bama.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:12 pm to ALhunter
How about this. He doesn’t want to say shite that motivates UGA to the press but rides the guys all week about the “hatred” of thats even the proper word to use.
In pep talk I have never said we gotta keep working because we hate team X. I might say you know team X is doing more we can go 15 more minutes blah blah blah
In pep talk I have never said we gotta keep working because we hate team X. I might say you know team X is doing more we can go 15 more minutes blah blah blah
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:20 pm to CorchJay
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How about this. He doesn’t want to say shite that motivates UGA to the press but rides the guys all week about the “hatred” of thats even the proper word to use.
I said hopefully he’s just being nice guy to the media and drumming them up in the locker room.
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In pep talk I have never said we gotta keep working because we hate team X. I might say you know team X is doing more we can go 15 more minutes blah blah blah
You do the shite Lanning did against Colorado. Every coach does. “They don’t respect you. They think they’re better than you. Go show them what real football looks like”
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:21 pm to allin2010
I think a bunch of this is coach-speak. Blah, Blah, Blah each game is important. Fans should be just as passionate about the UMASS game as they are the UGA game and just as passionate about the A&M game.
Life doesn't work that way.
Right now it could just be about managing expectations, but we all know all wins are not the same. 6-6 with losses to A&M, UGA, LSU, Bama, OM and Arky. Is different than losses to A&M, Ark, LSU, OM, MSU and Bama.
At the end of the day Auburn is going to feel a lot differently about the season and Freeze is he was able to beat one of the Big 3.
Life doesn't work that way.
Right now it could just be about managing expectations, but we all know all wins are not the same. 6-6 with losses to A&M, UGA, LSU, Bama, OM and Arky. Is different than losses to A&M, Ark, LSU, OM, MSU and Bama.
At the end of the day Auburn is going to feel a lot differently about the season and Freeze is he was able to beat one of the Big 3.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:25 pm to Weagle25
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I said hopefully he’s just being nice guy to the media and drumming them up in the locker room.
So what’s the problem? Nothing he said in Monday’s presser will determine the outcome of the game. Let him get the bullets he wants and needs then let’s critique how he talks about rivalries
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:28 pm to CorchJay
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So what’s the problem?
I don’t think that’s what he’s doing. But he could be
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:37 pm to wareagle7298
Not afraid to say I hate most UGA fans I've encountered. I despise UGA more than Bama. I'm a dadgum yankee from Buffalo, that's how I do sports and based from my experiences in Athens and in life. I've also worn jerseys to nfl games, a cardinal sin in the south that yall can get butthurt about. Also a Roman Catholic so some of the stuff is over the top to me but that's the deep south, that's Hugh, I got used to it at Auburn and I really don't care.
Still to this day when I say I went to Auburn, UGA fans and alum ask the HOPE scholarship bullshite. Regardless of not being from the south, that our undergrad engineering smokes theirs, and me being more successful than them. Shitbags. I knew when Kirby went there we were going to have our work cut out for us eventually.
I don't care how Hugh motivates the players or what he says about the fanbase. Just get us to the point where we're competitive with them, our players play with an edge to them, and if we ever get the chance to run it up on them, he better run it up. 2-3 years, fine but after that we better be there.
Oh, and Saban back in 2008 to his OL during the Iron Bowl:
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Still to this day when I say I went to Auburn, UGA fans and alum ask the HOPE scholarship bullshite. Regardless of not being from the south, that our undergrad engineering smokes theirs, and me being more successful than them. Shitbags. I knew when Kirby went there we were going to have our work cut out for us eventually.
I don't care how Hugh motivates the players or what he says about the fanbase. Just get us to the point where we're competitive with them, our players play with an edge to them, and if we ever get the chance to run it up on them, he better run it up. 2-3 years, fine but after that we better be there.
Oh, and Saban back in 2008 to his OL during the Iron Bowl:
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We know Saban hates Auburn because a CBS sideline reporter told us so. During the 36-0 Iron Bowl beatdown in 2008 that ended Alabama's six-game losing streak in the series, she reported that Saban told his players, "Don't you know how much I hate those guys?"
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:37 pm to Weagle25
He can say what he wants as long as we start punching those guys back in the mouth.
frick Georgia.
frick Georgia.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:50 pm to Weagle25
quote:Weak as shite. Tells me Freeze just doesnt get what it means to be an Auburn Tiger yet. He's about to find out
So basically you agree that it’s a weak answer from Freeze
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:21 pm to ChexMix
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Posted by ChexMix online on 9/26/23 at 5:50 pm
Weak as shite. Tells me Freeze just doesnt get what it means to be an Auburn Tiger
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Posted by LanierSpots on 9/19/23 at 6:44 pm.
I just want everyone to understand what is on the line against Texas AM this weekend… If Auburn wins, Jang must GTFO. IF Auburn loses, Chex must GTFO
Weak as shite…tells me Chex just doesn’t get what it means to be an Auburn Tiger
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:22 pm to ChexMix
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