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re: Wall Street Journal Ranks Texas A&M As #1 Public University In Texas

Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Texas A&M is an afterthought outside of a few very specific programs/degrees.


WSJ doesn't seem to think so.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:19 pm to
3 games into the season A&M is posting academic stats. Pack it up. It’s fricking over.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22046 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Texas, Michigan, North Carolina, Virginia, UCLA/Berkeley are the major "Public Ivy" schools.
Georgia and Florida are Public Ivy's now too...as are others...

LINK

Things change...A&M has greatly raised its profile in last 10 years...UT is a great school, but its whacky admission standard is hurting it. As a result, it is admitting kids that are less qualified than kids that don't get accepted...many of those kids are choosing A&M...
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3495 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

What kind of hack job doesn’t rank Rice first in TX?


It depends on what factors make up the rating dumbass.



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66832 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:22 pm to
did they factor in that y’all are a bunch of fricking weirdos?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55452 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

whacky admission standard is hurting it.



They have no choice in this matter though

Their aging and dated facilities for research and study cannot be easily replaced and they cannot expand their university campus. They have become a commuter school, comparable to University of Houston.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4020 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

It depends on what factors make up the rating dumbass.


You know DEI is one of their main factors in rankings, right?
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
2265 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:35 pm to
My father taught me to never let emotions get in the way of good business. Not every program at Texas A&M is better than the corresponding program at UT Austin.

However, the bs about Texas A&M being an overall inferior school because of a 10% vs 6% requirement is totally false.

Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5374 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Not every program at Texas A&M is better than the corresponding program at UT Austin.


Very few of them are.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55452 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:38 pm to
UTrans definitely has a superior Alternative Genders Degree program
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5702 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

My kids are Aggies. UT >>aTm academically and it’s not up for debate.


I’m curious about this. Can you elaborate?

Apparently the WSJ has adjusted their methodology to focus on outcomes and salaries more than reputation/ prestige.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
4455 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Who said it was just about academics. The rating includes academics but also covers a lot of other factors as part of the rating.


Must be some homosexual type of metrics in their ratings then.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4735 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:47 pm to
I'm going to assume that if we compare like for like colleges/degrees - Business School, STEM, etc. UT is probably ahead - again I'm just guessing.

So maybe UT score has been diluted by all the non-business and non-STEM degrees they offer that result in a much lower ROI.

Because salary outcomes seems to be the big disconnect between the scores of the two schools.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
159 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:52 pm to
Daughter at ATM, have hired and worked with many Aggies and 'Horns over the decades, in addition to being a 2x Texas ex myself. Wife also went to both. My take:

ATM is the better undergrad school and experience.

UT is the better research institution. More elite profs, more $$. Poster above stating UT facilities are old/landlocked is uninformed. There is a very large R&D center owned by the school in N Austin, and the university has done well in updating on-campus buildings and building new ones.

When I was there, about half the UT student pop was in grad school or professional (law, grad accounting, etc) schools.

FYI to both UT and ATM - AU and bammer alums/fans chuckle daily at your supposed rivalry. You look more like snippy siblings to those of us who understand real hate and contempt.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5702 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:55 pm to
UTex could be ahead in specific majors - I don’t have the numbers. But by what margin? It’s obviously not enough to move the needle in their methodology.

The size of the student body at both schools is large and comparable… so the logical takeaway is that there is a higher percentage of A&M students graduating with better salaries.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5702 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:57 pm to
This explanation makes sense - UTex is better regarded for the graduate schools.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:59 pm to
The Greenes' list, that nearly quadrupled the number of schools?

Anyone can arbitrarily make a list and add a bunch of schools to it. Might as well do it to the list of college football blue bloods. Clemson can be on it. Won't make it true, but they'll be on the "revised list."
Posted by 4th and 1
Member since Sep 2013
282 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:02 pm to
We came to play school.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22046 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

The Greenes' list, that nearly quadrupled the number of schools?
don't be mad that UT is being equaled or passed by others...
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55452 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:12 pm to
UTrans Austin campus research dollars
615 million reported 2022

Poor Aggy BCS campus. 1.15 BILLION reported 2022
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