re: Deion is becoming more and more unlikeable

Dude is such a dick for completely hijacking his son’s football career to take all the attention for himself. That’s what’s being lost in all of this. His son is a pretty damn good quarterback and nobody is talking about it because Deion won’t even allow his son to get a headline over him.

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His son is a pretty damn good quarterback and nobody is talking about it because Deion won’t even allow his son to get a headline over him.

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Just because you don’t hear it doesn’t mean people aren’t talking about it.

Shedeur has received plenty of press this week. He is being mentioned as a Heisman candidate too.

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You missed this part, I assume because you know its true:

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A white coach doesn't have to say it because 95% of CFB coaches are white. What are you talking about? Sanders own college, FSU, snubbed him. You are kidding yourself if you think Sanders had any chance of coaching in the SEC. SEC schools DO NOT HIRE BLACK HEAD COACHES. Sanders knows this, you know this, we all know this but you want to call out Sanders and blindly believe that SEC universities and forums like this are diverse. You call Sanders a racist. Haha, that is laughable.

To answer your question. If a white RB or runner (Matt Boling) said something like... "I hope that a kid that looks like me, would be inspired and believe that they too can run fast" or if he said, "hey, white guys can run fast too". NOT ONE PERSON SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM. It's all about changing perceptions.

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There is no double standard.

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When one person can say something and have it be considered acceptable and another person can say the same thing and be called a racist, then there is a double standard.

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Black head coaches are fricking unicorns.

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Same for the NFL, who has anti-racism rules in place to mitigate against inequitable hiring processes based on race or skin color.

When you look at assistant coaches, the representation changes drastically. There are several teams in the SEC alone that have 50/50 black/white assistant coaches or more black assistant coaches than white assistant coaches. Clearly it isn't racism that is preventing coaches from being hired generally.

It should also be noted that there aren't very many head coaches at all, at least compared to the number of players, assistants, and other personnel. There are thousands of players and former players for every one head coach, so the competition is great for those positions, and even at that, most programs are looking for a winner when looking for a head coach, and there are fewer of those compared to the larger pool of available options for coaching positions. It's why so many have to work their way up and be part of a winning program somewhere (like Deion did, though he had name recognition going for him, as well). It's also a completely different skillset than being a player. There are a lot of great players who are terrible coaches, and great coaches that weren't very good as players, so player demographics don't necessarily translate to coaching demographics. There are several reasons why this is the case that don't involve anti-black racism.

Very few placekickers and punters go on to become head coaches. Does that mean there is anti-kicker bias in hiring? We have to be careful with assuming that correlation equals causation.

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Somebody here said Sanders will coach at Auburn or Bama, heck, I wanted him over Napier at UF but we are all fooling ourselves. Ed Orgerons grand son, if he ever has one, or you and I have a better chance of coaching in the SEC than Sanders.

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That's speculation based on the assumption of racism. Even in the example of Ed Orgeron's grand son, what you're mistakenly doing is proving that there are other factors at play, including association to winning programs, however what you're denying is that if Sanders is successful at a D1 school--especially one that has been "down" for decades--that he won't get a look from SEC programs. If you think football in the south would rather continue losing than hire a black coach that can help a team win, you are mistaken. There is too much money at stake turn down a proven winner simply because of what he looks like.

The fact of the matter is that it costs millions of dollars to hire (and even fire) a head coach, especially for competitive football schools. Programs generally don't want to throw that sort of money at untested and unproven coaches. Deion now has a track record of success in coaching, which is the only reason a school like Colorado would pay him so much to coach there. Very few schools are going to hire a coach of any color who has no experience in team building and winning at some level.

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The SEC has ZERO black head coaches and only 5 in the 90 year history of the league. It will never happen. The standard ain’t double, it is in plain sight for all to see.

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Again, you assume the reason for few black coaches is due to some double standard. Perhaps in decades past race played a huge factor in hiring decisions, but these days, money talks. White coaches are fired all the time for bad results on the field.

And what do you mean by "it will never happen"? Doesn't the fact that black head coaches have been hired prove that Sanders coming to the SEC could happen? If not, what number of black head coaches need to be hired before you change your mind? Another 5? 25? 125?

For my part, I don't care what color skin the head coach of our school has.

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Most folks here can’t even name 2 ex SEC black coaches without looking it up, yet you say Sanders is playing the race card? fricking comical guy.

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You sound like you've bought into CRT ideology like I was describing. You assume a particular motive because the results don't look the way you think they should.

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Called the female reporters “baby” and “sweetheart”

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But he was saying bitch in his head.

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A white coach doesn't have to say it because 95% of CFB coaches are white.

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It's not about what they "have" to say, but if they did say it.

Do you deny that a white coach saying the same thing would be called a racist or white supremacist? If so, on what basis?

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What are you talking about? Sanders own college, FSU, snubbed him.

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Not every D1 school is willing to throw a lot of money at someone who has yet to prove success at that level. It's about risk vs. reward, and different factors change how risky a coaching candidate is that does not involve their skin color. Colorado has been mostly terrible for decades now with little draw for recruits due to little name recognition and no recent success to point to. Deion's track record at Jackson State is what got him that job, as he proved he could draw talent to a smaller program away from bigger programs, which is exactly what CU needs to be successful. FSU is in a different position than Colorado in terms of risk vs. reward.

Also, I hope you aren't implying that FSU snubbed Deion because he is black. Just a few years ago FSU hired a black head coach in Willie Taggart, and gave Odell Haggins two opportunities to be interim head coach after Willie and Jimbo Fisher were out of the picture.

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You are kidding yourself if you think Sanders had any chance of coaching in the SEC. SEC schools DO NOT HIRE BLACK HEAD COACHES. Sanders knows this, you know this, we all know this but you want to call out Sanders and blindly believe that SEC universities and forums like this are diverse. You call Sanders a racist. Haha, that is laughable.

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You said yourself that there have been 5 black head coaches in the SEC, so objectively, your claim that SEC schools do not hire black coaches is false. If you want to narrow your scope a bit, then you would be correct, but only as far as previous hires are concerned. You would then have to prove racism on the part of the lack of hires for those schools that haven't hired black head coaches.

As far as UGA is concerned, we've only had 2 head coaches in the past 23 years. Mark Richt was hired out of FSU and he was an excellent offensive coordinator there who brought them a lot of success, so he had a proven track record in D1 football. He was an immediate upgrade and stuck around for 15 years. We then hired Kirby Smart, who was a former UGA player and was basically Saban's right hand man at Alabama. Smart was hired due to his success with Alabama, and that has translated well to UGA. Are you going to claim that 23+ years of coaching at UGA was race-based and not merit-based? Or, do you have examples where schools purposefully passed on a black head coach because he was black? If so, I'll join you in outrage.

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To answer your question. If a white RB or runner (Matt Boling) said something like... "I hope that a kid that looks like me, would be inspired and believe that they too can run fast" or if he said, "hey, white guys can run fast too". NOT ONE PERSON SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM. It's all about changing perceptions.

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"Should". The question of double standard isn't what "should" be the case, but what is the case. The reason a double standard exists is because of what actually happens, not what you think should happen. We have examples of white people being treated differently from black people when talking about "white pride" vs. "black pride", but I haven't seen any examples of where a black man was turned down for a head coaching job in the SEC simply because he was black. If you can point to an example, I'll condemn it, but just because there aren't many black head coaches doesn't mean it's due to racism any more than few head coaches being former punters and kickers is due to anti-kicker bias.

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Yup, without the transfer portal he would be lucky to win 2 games. Once the dust settles, we will see how is coaching is when he is not relying on a team full of transfers.

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Lots of teams are stocked full of transfers, some did ok, and some didn't.

Deion's did pretty well on Saturday. CU players did their job on the field, the communication from sideline to the field appeared to go smoothly, they looked disciplined, the coaching staff made adjustments as needed and players made plays.

Watch the Colorado lose this week, lol.

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You said yourself that there have been 5 black head coaches in the SEC, so objectively, your claim that SEC schools do not hire black coaches is false.

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Are you really going to puff your chest with 5 coaches at 4 schools (Vandy hired 2) in 90 years of SEC football? TAM hired Sumlin when they were in the B12, so he really doesn't count. Plus look at how quick they got rid of him even after he had a better record than Jimbo. The SEC has been integrated with players for 55+ years and only 4 teams have ever hired ONE. Okay, let's put it this way, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, UGA, USC, Mizzou, and Tennessee WILL NEVER HIRE A BLACK HEAD COACH. Prove me wrong...

Are you really trying to convince me, us, yourself that the 4 schools hiring 5 black head coaches in the history of the league, currently with no black head coaches in half a decade is good?

You then claimed that Deion didn't have enough experience??? He coached ~10 years before Jackson State. Did Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, Jim Shark fricker McElwain or Billy Napier have more Head coaching experience? Which one of them had/have more credentials than Deion, on and off the field? You also said it's about winning not color. Ask Sumlin or even Deion who had a better record in his first 3 years than Mike Norvell in his. What's really sad is the same folks that are calling out Deion, will NEVER, EVER call out the hypocrisy in the sport. You see what you want to see.