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re: USA TODAY writer ranks the SEC after spring practice. Where are you?
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:09 am to Leto II
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:09 am to Leto II
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2014 was where Gus's offense peaked and apparently also when he decided he wasn't going to adapt.
Auburn transitioned to a Top 5 defense 2015-2019. Offense had some abysmal years in 2015 and 2016.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:51 am to Jon Ham
Mid pack is about what I figure
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:39 am to RollingwiththeTide
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How can this writer rank anyone? Unless this guy attended every practice at every school then how can this writer accurately rank any SEC school.
Bingo. And even then you are watching a very vanilla game of two hand touch with many teams having a number of starters out with off season surgery recovery. yea, you can see some speed or quickness and gauge that stuff but unless you are ole miss you are not running much offensively in the spring game. Even defensively you aren't showing certain coverages and blitz packages.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:15 pm to TouchdownTony
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but unless you are ole miss you are not running much offensively in the spring game.
Pete Golding must have been DCing for both sides.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:20 pm to RollingwiththeTide
quote:Yeah - almost as ridiculous as these idiots that rank high school football or basketball teams nationally.
How can this writer rank anyone? Unless this guy attended every practice at every school then how can this writer accurately rank any SEC school.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:39 pm to rmc
I was curious so I looked it up and Tennessee hasn’t been in the preseason SEC top five in at least the last 5 seasons. I figured you were full of crap
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:48 pm to rmc
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How many years is this sort of thing going to go on? If they keep ranking them high preseason eventually they will get it right I suppose.
So far it’s been 2 and they were right last year. Before that you have to go back the middle of the Butch Jones era for any Tennessee hype.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 2:15 pm to koreandawg
USA Today is still a thing?…
Posted on 4/24/23 at 4:15 pm to Rip Torn
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I figured you were full of crap
I'm sorry. You are right. Tenner aren't the most pre season hyped SEC football program that continually fails to deliver. I guess I got the football and baseball teams mixed up.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 4:33 pm to rmc
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guess I got the football and baseball teams mixed up.
When would it apply to baseball? Maybe you are just delusional.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:11 pm to RollingwiththeTide
I haven’t watch a down of spring football, and I can tell you it’s Georgia, then a distant second, LSU. Bama & Tennessee battling it out for 3rd.
After that, a lot of bad football teams.
After that, a lot of bad football teams.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:23 pm to koreandawg
Missouri will be far better than Florida and Auburn. They will have a very good defense
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:03 am to dstone12
quote:Yeah, this is a weird, lazy take on LSU. The O Line was fine by the end of the season, and like someone else pointed out, there were 2 true freshmen starting at tackle. That line has returned intact, and with the maturation of those younger guys, it actually should be a strength of the team, not a weakness.quote:
4. LSU- Wonders if the five starter returning Oline will gel enough that Kelly would contemplate playing Nussmeier over Daniels. Allowed more than 3 sacks per game last year. Only 9 power five schools were worse.
This is not my wonder at all. Oline is fine on the starting five. They geled fine.
Also sounds like he's suggesting Daniels' mobility is the only reason he's starting ahead of Nussmeier. Daniels played well, is a 5th year senior, and Nussmeier still has plenty of time to grow.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:25 am to ibldprplgld
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And I guess no mention or acknowledgment that LSU had to play not one, but two true freshman at OT…
Which will pay big dividends in the near future. Also a true freshman TE, right? LSU definitely seems to be on the upswing.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:12 am to DawgsLife
quote:Right. 2 freshmen at tackle, plus a freshman TE. for a team good enough to win the West. So, every starter including the TE is back. And yet, you question the line?quote:
And I guess no mention or acknowledgment that LSU had to play not one, but two true freshman at OT…
Which will pay big dividends in the near future. Also a true freshman TE, right? LSU definitely seems to be on the upswing.
Like I said above, that's just lazy. LSU does have question marks; LB other than Perkins. Cohesion in the secondary. Breakout RB. Special teams efficiency (that's the big one).
Not worried at all about the O Line.
If it's that way for LSU, I imagine the rest of the school evals are equally useless.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:17 am to Scoob
LSU allowed 45 sacks in 2022.
It is reasonable to question the line right now.
Should it be improved in 2023?
Absolutely.
But how much better? 40 sacks? 35?
What's your guess for 2023?
It is reasonable to question the line right now.
Should it be improved in 2023?
Absolutely.
But how much better? 40 sacks? 35?
What's your guess for 2023?
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:51 am to meansonny
quote:I think it will be a good O Line, and it's hard to figure what the total will be due to what the offense is.
LSU allowed 45 sacks in 2022.
It is reasonable to question the line right now.
Should it be improved in 2023?
Absolutely.
But how much better? 40 sacks? 35?
What's your guess for 2023?
In 2022, you did have a couple factors outside of the line that came into play:
Daniels was new to the team, didn't know anyone, expected Boutte to be the go-to WR. Boutte had the drops, so Daniels had to adjust- things got smoother once it became established that Nabers was the go-to WR, and Taylor (the freshman TE) became his safety net.
Also, Daniels did rely on his mobility (he ran for almost 900 yds), so he would hang back at times. Some sacks are because he held too long, or would scramble and get caught behind the line... but some scrambles were 15-20 yds, so that's a fair tradeoff. I don't recall there being a ton of jailbreak sacks against him, games he ran for his life. He'd extend plays, and sometimes they were negatives.
If Daniels is a bit more decisive and quicker this year, knowing and trusting his targets, and he scrambles before the line breaks down (or throws it away more), those sack totals drop a lot.
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:00 pm to koreandawg
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Ole Miss- says they have the most crowded QB room. I'm not really sure why he'd say that. It'd make sense if he thought any of the three could start, but says Howard is likely a year away before being ready. That makes it a two man race which several schools have. So why is it the most crowded?
Yeah we just have two 5 star QB’s and a 4 year starter from Okie Lite but I’m sure another school has 3 guys who could start pretty much anywhere this season.
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