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re: USA TODAY writer ranks the SEC after spring practice. Where are you?

Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:09 am to
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7729 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:09 am to
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2014 was where Gus's offense peaked and apparently also when he decided he wasn't going to adapt.


Auburn transitioned to a Top 5 defense 2015-2019. Offense had some abysmal years in 2015 and 2016.
Posted by Criticalmass
Member since Jun 2022
284 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:51 am to
Mid pack is about what I figure
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9766 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:39 am to
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How can this writer rank anyone? Unless this guy attended every practice at every school then how can this writer accurately rank any SEC school.


Bingo. And even then you are watching a very vanilla game of two hand touch with many teams having a number of starters out with off season surgery recovery. yea, you can see some speed or quickness and gauge that stuff but unless you are ole miss you are not running much offensively in the spring game. Even defensively you aren't showing certain coverages and blitz packages.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14560 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:15 pm to
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but unless you are ole miss you are not running much offensively in the spring game.


Pete Golding must have been DCing for both sides.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32476 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:20 pm to
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How can this writer rank anyone? Unless this guy attended every practice at every school then how can this writer accurately rank any SEC school.

Yeah - almost as ridiculous as these idiots that rank high school football or basketball teams nationally.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2309 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:39 pm to
I was curious so I looked it up and Tennessee hasn’t been in the preseason SEC top five in at least the last 5 seasons. I figured you were full of crap
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16292 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:48 pm to
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How many years is this sort of thing going to go on? If they keep ranking them high preseason eventually they will get it right I suppose.


So far it’s been 2 and they were right last year. Before that you have to go back the middle of the Butch Jones era for any Tennessee hype.

Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 12:52 pm to
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USA TODAY

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11082 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 2:15 pm to
USA Today is still a thing?…
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26577 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 4:15 pm to
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I figured you were full of crap


I'm sorry. You are right. Tenner aren't the most pre season hyped SEC football program that continually fails to deliver. I guess I got the football and baseball teams mixed up.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16292 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 4:33 pm to
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guess I got the football and baseball teams mixed up.


When would it apply to baseball? Maybe you are just delusional.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4035 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:11 pm to
I haven’t watch a down of spring football, and I can tell you it’s Georgia, then a distant second, LSU. Bama & Tennessee battling it out for 3rd.
After that, a lot of bad football teams.
Posted by Dawgholio2
Nashville
Member since Apr 2023
39 posts
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:23 pm to
Missouri will be far better than Florida and Auburn. They will have a very good defense
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20532 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:03 am to
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4. LSU- Wonders if the five starter returning Oline will gel enough that Kelly would contemplate playing Nussmeier over Daniels. Allowed more than 3 sacks per game last year. Only 9 power five schools were worse.



This is not my wonder at all. Oline is fine on the starting five. They geled fine.

Yeah, this is a weird, lazy take on LSU. The O Line was fine by the end of the season, and like someone else pointed out, there were 2 true freshmen starting at tackle. That line has returned intact, and with the maturation of those younger guys, it actually should be a strength of the team, not a weakness.

Also sounds like he's suggesting Daniels' mobility is the only reason he's starting ahead of Nussmeier. Daniels played well, is a 5th year senior, and Nussmeier still has plenty of time to grow.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58992 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:25 am to
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And I guess no mention or acknowledgment that LSU had to play not one, but two true freshman at OT…


Which will pay big dividends in the near future. Also a true freshman TE, right? LSU definitely seems to be on the upswing.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2309 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:51 am to
Or you’re just stupid
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20532 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:12 am to
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And I guess no mention or acknowledgment that LSU had to play not one, but two true freshman at OT…



Which will pay big dividends in the near future. Also a true freshman TE, right? LSU definitely seems to be on the upswing.

Right. 2 freshmen at tackle, plus a freshman TE. for a team good enough to win the West. So, every starter including the TE is back. And yet, you question the line?

Like I said above, that's just lazy. LSU does have question marks; LB other than Perkins. Cohesion in the secondary. Breakout RB. Special teams efficiency (that's the big one).
Not worried at all about the O Line.

If it's that way for LSU, I imagine the rest of the school evals are equally useless.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:17 am to
LSU allowed 45 sacks in 2022.

It is reasonable to question the line right now.

Should it be improved in 2023?
Absolutely.
But how much better? 40 sacks? 35?

What's your guess for 2023?
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20532 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:51 am to
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LSU allowed 45 sacks in 2022.

It is reasonable to question the line right now.

Should it be improved in 2023?
Absolutely.
But how much better? 40 sacks? 35?

What's your guess for 2023?
I think it will be a good O Line, and it's hard to figure what the total will be due to what the offense is.

In 2022, you did have a couple factors outside of the line that came into play:
Daniels was new to the team, didn't know anyone, expected Boutte to be the go-to WR. Boutte had the drops, so Daniels had to adjust- things got smoother once it became established that Nabers was the go-to WR, and Taylor (the freshman TE) became his safety net.

Also, Daniels did rely on his mobility (he ran for almost 900 yds), so he would hang back at times. Some sacks are because he held too long, or would scramble and get caught behind the line... but some scrambles were 15-20 yds, so that's a fair tradeoff. I don't recall there being a ton of jailbreak sacks against him, games he ran for his life. He'd extend plays, and sometimes they were negatives.

If Daniels is a bit more decisive and quicker this year, knowing and trusting his targets, and he scrambles before the line breaks down (or throws it away more), those sack totals drop a lot.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Ole Miss- says they have the most crowded QB room. I'm not really sure why he'd say that. It'd make sense if he thought any of the three could start, but says Howard is likely a year away before being ready. That makes it a two man race which several schools have. So why is it the most crowded?


Yeah we just have two 5 star QB’s and a 4 year starter from Okie Lite but I’m sure another school has 3 guys who could start pretty much anywhere this season.
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