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Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by BrotherDawg84
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Y’all, seriously…. He is just there to help the team.


I guess he's just trying to figure out who "the team" is.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:33 pm to
Remember when they threw the ball to our player and he ran it back and we won the Natty?

…but seriously, I call BS on what Saban said about Burton. All the kid wants to do is help the team any way he can. It’s not about him. It’s about the team.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:40 pm to
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Burton “might have seen a better opportunity because we’re a little bit more wide open and throw the ball more with a good quarterback,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said of Burton last spring.

Of course that’s what he says out of one side of his mouth. What he says non-stop out of the other side of his mouth is that free agency is terrible for the sport, that its way out of control, and that it needs to be regulated with new rules. And then he’ll say something about how his dad would of kicked him out the house if hed ever come home and said hed quit a team.

As long as its allowed though Saban will speak out of both sides of his mouth and take advantage of it. Hes not going to lose an edge by taking a stand on principle.

Have you not been paying attention to him the last 12 years or so? This is Saban in a nutshell right here.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:22 pm to
Think of DRob, went to Auburn started but didnt oroduce. Now Drob had some legal problems which is always a prerequisite for ours to transfer to Auburn.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:33 am to
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If what he left over was targets, then he can go frick himself.

How many targets did it take Pickens to get drafted in the 2nd round?




Pickens was a special case. He made 2nd round because of his different abilities. Spped, catch radius, height etc.

Alabama does throw the ball more (or at least have the past several years) and concentrate on a tp 2-3 receivers, while we do tend to spread the ball around to more receivers and not throw as much.

All that said, Burton did not help himself by being injured a good deal of the time...and I lean towards the thought that Alabama will lean on the run a bit more this coming season. They don't seem to have the explosive receivers they have had in the past couple of years with Smith and Williams.

We will probably throw a bit more but will still spread the ball around.

I have a hard time faulting Burton because if Alabama does continue to throw a lot to 2-3 receivers Burton could get some eye popping numbers and increase his numbers for the NFL scouts.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:29 am to
He is just there to help the team any way he can.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:41 am to
Go out and give 110%, leave it all out on the field, ME team guy. Just got keep our eyes on the prize, watch the ball in, you dont score, until you score.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:58 am to
All glory goes to God, for if he didn’t make me genetically superior, I’d be some regular dude no one knows.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:01 pm to
Nice.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:33 pm to
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He is just there to help the team any way he can.


I know you are being sarcastic....but so many fans think only in terms of kids loving the school and only want to "help the team." Once you get to a certain talent level (think NFL possibilities) it ceases to be the only concern. It is more about the money and how to maximize their contracts. Sure they want the team to win...but more importantly, how can they have big numbers and get drafted higher for a bigger payday.

Some of our posters will criticize the guys for this, but every single one of us would feel the same if we were in their position.

(Again....I know you realize this, but some people get caught up in the notion that players are all "rah rah, team!") When money enters the equation that goes out the door to a large extent.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:45 pm to
You presume he will actually do better statisically at BAMA, maybe, maybe not.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:37 pm to
I thonk it's quite obvious why Burton left.



Monkey Pox
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:48 pm to
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I know you are being sarcastic....but so many fans think only in terms of kids loving the school and only want to "help the team." Once you get to a certain talent level (think NFL possibilities) it ceases to be the only concern. It is more about the money and how to maximize their contracts. Sure they want the team to win...but more importantly, how can they have big numbers and get drafted higher for a bigger payday.


… because he literally said it in the article
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64611 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:49 pm to
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I know you are being sarcastic....but so many fans think only in terms of kids loving the school and only want to "help the team." Once you get to a certain talent level (think NFL possibilities) it ceases to be the only concern. It is more about the money and how to maximize their contracts. Sure they want the team to win...but more importantly, how can they have big numbers and get drafted higher for a bigger payday.

Some of our posters will criticize the guys for this, but every single one of us would feel the same if we were in their position.

(Again....I know you realize this, but some people get caught up in the notion that players are all "rah rah, team!") When money enters the equation that goes out the door to a large extent.


I disagree. The only time a transfer makes sense and is understandable is if a guy is buried on the depth chart and wants to go some place where he thinks he can be showcased. Burton was not buried on the depth chart.

As far as NIL, Georgia's NIL is probably just as good as Bama's, so I don't buy the NIL scenario. Maybe if a guy transfers from UTEP to Bama, then NIL would be a factor.

In Burton's case, the transfer was a little fishy. Technically, coaches can't recruit players until they enter the portal. It's odd that he entered the portal on 19 JAN and four calendar days later, he signs with Bama. No visits or talking to other schools etc. It's like it was already a decision, and they waited 4 days to make it look like it was organic in some way. THis is mere days after playing vs Bama to win the national championship. Exactly 9 days after. And he's not from Alabama, he's from Atlanta. So it's odd. To me.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:51 pm to
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You presume he will actually do better statisically at BAMA, maybe, maybe not.




True. But if your future depended upon it who would you think would have WRs with bigger numbers? The past several years the answer would be Alabama. You and i can sit back and say, "Yeah, but we are going to pen up our offense!"

Well...maybe. I would have thought it would happen last season. But injuries, and spreading the ball around caused this not to be the case. All the kids have to go on is what is happening at this moment. I mean, if it meant millions of dollars would you go with the program that is currently putting out first round draft picks or the one that has not done that in a while?

ETA
Just for clarification...Burton was our leading wide receiver last season with 498 yards.
He would have been third on Alabama. 2nd place for Alabama had 1,000+ yards.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:56 pm to
Bama has injuries, they also have a lot stars to spread the ball to. He had chemistry with his qb here, we dont know about there.

Grass may or may not be greener. Seen it work out and not work out.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:58 pm to
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I disagree. The only time a transfer makes sense and is understandable is if a guy is buried on the depth chart and wants to go some place where he thinks he can be showcased. Burton was not buried on the depth chart.

True. But he can be showcased at Alabama. Much more so than here. Our leading wide receiver (Burton) had 498 yards receiving. Alabama's leading wide receiver had 1572 yards and #2 for Alabama had 1142 yards.
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As far as NIL, Georgia's NIL is probably just as good as Bama's, so I don't buy the NIL scenario. Maybe if a guy transfers from UTEP to Bama, then NIL would be a factor.
I agree with you here, too.

quote:

In Burton's case, the transfer was a little fishy. Technically, coaches can't recruit players until they enter the portal. It's odd that he entered the portal on 19 JAN and four calendar days later, he signs with Bama. No visits or talking to other schools etc. It's like it was already a decision, and they waited 4 days to make it look like it was organic in some way. THis is mere days after playing vs Bama to win the national championship. Exactly 9 days after. And he's not from Alabama, he's from Atlanta. So it's odd. To me.
To me, too.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 8:03 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Bama has injuries, they also have a lot stars to spread the ball to. He had chemistry with his qb here, we dont know about there.


But their top two receivers had 1500 and 1100 yards. Taht is a big difference from our top receiver with 498 yards. A HUGE difference. And Alabama has had receivers drafted in first round the past several seasons.

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Grass may or may not be greener. Seen it work out and not work out.
And it may not work out for him. From where I sit, I think his biggest problems have come from injuries. If he gets injured again his stats may not go up. Personally, I would love it if we won another title and had some receivers get a ton of yardage.

I am not saying I like his decision. I am saying I can understand where his decision came from.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59021 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:04 pm to
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… because he literally said it in the article


Yep. He did.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:27 pm to
That was last season, who knows what this season holds for Bama.

Being a deep threat on a team that can run the ball opens things up alot.
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