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re: Why Burton left

Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:29 pm to
Bama had a number of close games and were not as dominant in the run. They threw because they needed to.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:14 am to
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That was last season, who knows what this season holds for Bama.

Being a deep threat on a team that can run the ball opens things up alot.




Ok. You have a shot at making first round and having a multi million dollar contract. Do you go to a school who has not yet begun to throw the ball as much and spreads the ball around to 4-5 receivers, but has openly said they were going to open up the offense for the past couple of years, or do you go to a school that features 1-2 receivers and has thrown the ball for several years already. 2020 and 2021 Alabama has had not one but two receivers taken in the first round, and last season had a first round and second round pick in spite of both suffering (I think) ACL tears.

Would you be willing to take the chance? I wouldn't. Not when millions of dollars are at stake.


Alabama has had 4 receivers 2020 and 2021 taken in the first round. Other than Pickens (who got picked due to his natural/physical abilities) I can't think of where our receivers have been picked. Burton is obviously not in the Pickens class...but if he can be one of the top 2 at Alabama he could be propelled to a first round pick. While he is a different type/style of receiver he is certainly better than Metchie, imo.
We need to stop thinking like fans and start thinking like the players if we want to understand their decisions.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 7:17 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:26 am to
You seem to not comprehend that who knows what their offense will be at Bama. If they can run the ball like us, they will run the ball.

Saban could care less about player ego, he will do what it takes to win.

Pretending that next year will play out like last year is silly. Maybe it will, maybe it wont, maybe he sprains an ankle l, maybe bama has better wrs than him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:38 am to
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You seem to not comprehend that who knows what their offense will be at Bama.


But we pretty much do know. They have the same OC this year as they did last year, and their offense last year was pretty much identical to the offense under the last 2 years under the former OC.

Kiffin completely changed the offensive philosophy overall at alabama nd it hasn't looked back since. They are a passing team especially the last several yeras where they've put up multiple 1K yard receivers and mulitple first rounders. And they have a heisman winner at qB. I'm not trying to advertise for them or antyhign but I think what the poster above said is pretty spot on.

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If they can run the ball like us, they will run the ball.


their leading rusher last year had over 1300 yards. It's not like they're the hal mumme passing-only style from the past. They attempt to do both but over the last 5 years bama is very much a passing offense more than a running one.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:44 am to
They are another year removed from Kiffin and have down graded with booth hire afterward.


Again maybe they are the same, maybe they arent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:53 am to
2018: Passed for 4000 yards. Leading rusher had 900
2019: Passed for over 4300 yards. Leading rusher had 1200
2020: Passed for 4600 yards (shortened covid season). Leading rusher had 1500
2021: Passed for 4900 yards. Leading rusher had 1300.

They may not have an OC as good as kiffin but the point was their offense is still the same style. They aren't running the early-saban era offense that's heavily run first where they'd win games 17-10. They clearly throw the ball a shite ton and the stats bare that out. They aren't going to completely overhaul their offense during this offseason.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:59 am to
You be you, I am just telling you, things rarely work out like you project them in football. Sure things bust, walk ons win NCs...
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:15 am to
It may work out better for him or Bama could recruit 2 or 3 more studs who get a lot of the reps and they could have an amazing RB who gets more touches and eats more clock. Their defense could dominate and not put them in a spot to have to throw as much for 4 quarters.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:36 am to
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You be you, I am just telling you, things rarely work out like you project them in football


Lol ok. Not sure why you think it's so far fetched to suggest alabama throws the ball more than we do but ok
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:38 am to
I am not saying he wont, i am saying its not a sure thing by any stretch.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:43 am to
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, i am saying its not a sure thing by any stretch.


me not dying today isn't a sure thing either but I'm pretty sure I won't. This isn't some major out on a limb prediction. Bama clearly throws the ball more than we do. By a lot. They ahve for years. It's what their offensive systsem is bulit on. It's hwat their offensive roster was recruited for.

Kirby's philosophy on offense simply isn't the same. And tha'ts not a bad thing, obviously as evidenced by the fact we just won a got dang national title with it. But yeah, it's pretty much a sure thing alabama is going to put up better numbers for QBs and Wide Receivers than we will.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:49 am to
Get a life man, frick. You are one dumb mfer.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:03 pm to
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You seem to not comprehend that who knows what their offense will be at Bama. I

I know and understand that. but they have been throwing the ball a lot the past several seasons, right? Is it not understandable to think they will continue to throw the ball? I mean, we have been screaming for several years that the game demands teams throw the ball and want our team to begin throwing it more. Why would we assume Alabama is suddenly going to stop throwing the ball?

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Saban could care less about player ego, he will do what it takes to win.

Not sure what your point is, but i agree with what you said.

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Pretending that next year will play out like last year is silly.
Do you believe Alabama suddenly started throwing the ball last year?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:10 pm to
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Get a life man, frick. You are one dumb mfer.




I mean...he's right.
Alabama SEC finishes in passing
2021-2nd
2020-2nd
2019-2nd
2018-2nd

Georgia SEC finishes in passing
2021-7th
2020-7th
2019-5th
2018-8th

And on top of that we typically spread the ball around. Alabama focuses on a couple of receivers. It has worked well for Alabama....but when both of their receivers went down last year it bit them in the rear end.

We are not criticizing Georgia. We are merely looking at things from the kids perspective.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:38 pm to
All these word salads to argue the point that maybe it works out for him and maybe it doesnt. Hilarious.

The cliche is the grass isnt always greener. Doesnt mean sometimes it isnt greener.

Its a gigantic gamble and his handlers will look great or awful. Robertson was also a big time 5 star. Hell, The Titans are treating Burks, a first round pick, like an undrafted free agent because he is not up to their expectation.

Let the post season end these stupid arguements.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:40 pm to
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All these word salads to argue the point that maybe it works out for him and maybe it doesnt. Hilarious.


I merely said that more than likely Alabama would be throwing the ball a lot more than us and that I understood why Burton went to Alabama. You're the one that is arguing that he made a mistake because he had as much chance to pile up statistics here as at Alabama.

Honestly. Based upon the last few years, you think he has as much chance to pile up stats at Georgia than at Alabama? And if it were you, you would stay at Georgia knowing that recent history shows it probably costs you millions of dollars?

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Robertson was also a big time 5 star.

Robertson had Gus Malzahn calling the plays and Bo Nix throwing him the ball in an offense that the league had caught on to. Burton will have a returning Heisman trophy winning QB throwing to him in an offense that has been wide open for 4 years straight. You don't see a difference?

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:28 pm to
Another word salad....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 6:26 am to
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Another word salad....


7 sentences = word salad?

So. You got nothing?
You can't respond except to trot out "word salad"?
I mean, you should at least show me where my thinking is incorrect.

Show me how based on recent history we will more than likely be the better school for a wide receiver.

Or, we can just let this die? Seems like that is what you want anyway.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:01 am to
There is nothing to add to maybe it will work out and maybe it wont.... You ate the lead paint chips when you were a child didnt you?

Lets kick off the season so a twit like your self will shut the frick up.
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