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Rank the top 5 football coaching jobs in the SEC, currently
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:00 pm
These are all splitting hairs because in all reality, they're very close and would really depend on what the coaching candidate placed value in.
Just an entertaining offseason conversation.
1. Texas A&M A&M has all of the resources of everyone else, top 3 facilities, they're willing to pay coaches and their staff top dollar, easy regional access to talent, fanbase has relatively lower expectations than most of the other schools on this list.
2. Georgia Top resources, top 5 facilities, a lot of easy access to instate talent. Only major competition for instate talent is Georgia Tech which isn't really a competition. The East has been much easier as of late. Fanbase has high expectations but not unrealistic.
3. LSU They have the resources and facilities of CFB's upper echelon as well as no competition for the instate talent. Less talent than some states like Florida but no competition at all. Georgia and LSU are very close in terms of this ranking, Georgia gets the nod because they're in the East, also feel that LSU fans have a little higher expectations although Georgia's recent title may make it about the same.
4. Alabama They have all the resources they need and better facilities than most but having an instate SEC program bumps them down the list and the expectations of the fanbase are sky high right now. It will be a tough job for whoever follows in Saban's footsteps but he should have all the tools to succeed.
5. Florida Tough to decide between Tennessee and Florida here, facilities are pretty close (Tennessee is #16 and Florida is #19 when ranked by 247 Sports). I would give the nod to Florida simply because they've been more relevant recently thus making recruiting a little easier and because of the instate talent factor. No slight at all to Tennessee which is also a great job.
Just an entertaining offseason conversation.
1. Texas A&M A&M has all of the resources of everyone else, top 3 facilities, they're willing to pay coaches and their staff top dollar, easy regional access to talent, fanbase has relatively lower expectations than most of the other schools on this list.
2. Georgia Top resources, top 5 facilities, a lot of easy access to instate talent. Only major competition for instate talent is Georgia Tech which isn't really a competition. The East has been much easier as of late. Fanbase has high expectations but not unrealistic.
3. LSU They have the resources and facilities of CFB's upper echelon as well as no competition for the instate talent. Less talent than some states like Florida but no competition at all. Georgia and LSU are very close in terms of this ranking, Georgia gets the nod because they're in the East, also feel that LSU fans have a little higher expectations although Georgia's recent title may make it about the same.
4. Alabama They have all the resources they need and better facilities than most but having an instate SEC program bumps them down the list and the expectations of the fanbase are sky high right now. It will be a tough job for whoever follows in Saban's footsteps but he should have all the tools to succeed.
5. Florida Tough to decide between Tennessee and Florida here, facilities are pretty close (Tennessee is #16 and Florida is #19 when ranked by 247 Sports). I would give the nod to Florida simply because they've been more relevant recently thus making recruiting a little easier and because of the instate talent factor. No slight at all to Tennessee which is also a great job.
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
So you are capable of rational, non-troll posts. Who knew? 
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:10 pm to SidewalkTiger
Good list.
Auburn is a good job because you are going to get paid regardless. But tough because of sharing a state with the GOAT and because of the meddlesome boosters and incompetent AD.
Auburn is a good job because you are going to get paid regardless. But tough because of sharing a state with the GOAT and because of the meddlesome boosters and incompetent AD.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Less talent than some states like Florida but no competition at all. Georgia and LSU are very close in terms of this ranking,
Not really and seems as though the gap is widening.
states that produced the most NFL picks 2022
Georgia-30
Florida-22
Alabama-12
Tennessee-10
Louisiana-10
Is the famed talent pool drying up in Louisiana or just being surpassed by the growth of other Southern states?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:15 pm to Leto II
Agreed, Auburn would probably be right behind Tennessee for me.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
I would flip flop UGA and aTm and I don’t think UF/UT is a debate.
UGA is essentially the only power 5 program in their state and a state that basically produces an NFL team every year.
aTm has Texas, Baylor, TCU, TTU, all in state and while the latter 3 are not on UTw or aTm level, it’s still power 5 schools.
UF has to compete with a shite load of schools, but they have a massive population base, a loaded talent base, and their main rivalry game has been competitive unlike UT.
My heart wants to put LSU at number 2 over aTm but until buying recruiting classes is reigned in, aTm has the advantage.
UGA is essentially the only power 5 program in their state and a state that basically produces an NFL team every year.
aTm has Texas, Baylor, TCU, TTU, all in state and while the latter 3 are not on UTw or aTm level, it’s still power 5 schools.
UF has to compete with a shite load of schools, but they have a massive population base, a loaded talent base, and their main rivalry game has been competitive unlike UT.
My heart wants to put LSU at number 2 over aTm but until buying recruiting classes is reigned in, aTm has the advantage.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:21 pm to RD Dawg
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RD Dawg
I think he was saying LSu and UGA were close for the 2/3 spot on the list.
LSu fans love to tout "muh per capita" but they aren't really close to GA as a recruiting state overall and they know it.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:23 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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UGA is essentially the only power 5 program in their stat
people have been sayign this for 2 decades as if state borders are locked in by a mote or the great wall or something.
Clemson
SC
FSU
UF
Bama
Auburn
Tennessee
Are all within 3-4 hours from hotbeds within the state. Honestly all except for tuscaloosa are essentially right by the border. The fact that ga tech is the only other p5 school in the state means less than nothing when it comes to this topic.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:24 pm to WG_Dawg
You’re right that other schools are close, but they still aren’t the home state team. That has to have an advantage over some of those closer schools.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:27 pm to RD Dawg
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states that produced the most NFL picks 2022
While those numbers are impressive, a single year is hardly a useful snapshot overall.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:30 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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they still aren’t the home state team. That has to have an advantage over some of those closer schools.
Prior to the early 2000s I'd agree.
1) More and more yankees are moving to Atlanta so people growing up as HS recruits in GA now don't really care abotu home state pride
2) With HOPE scholarship and entrance requirements getting harder and harder you get less and less people that coudl maybe go as preferred walkons. Ties in with #1 above
3) With NIL and unlimited transfer potnetial I doubt hardly any 18 year olds are gonna GAS abotu home state pride anymore.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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I think he was saying LSu and UGA were close for the 2/3 spot on the list.
Yes
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LSu fans love to tout "muh per capita" but they aren't really close to GA as a recruiting state overall and they know it.
Something like 1 in every 133 high school players in Georgia is an FBS signee while it's something like 1 in every 152 for Louisiana.
I would argue the major difference is programs like Clemson and Tennessee aren't there to poach our recruits.
Alabama is our biggest problem and A&M has taken a few but nothing to the level that Georgia (as a state) experiences.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:34 pm to SidewalkTiger
Agree, A&M is top place for a coach. Where else can go be paid $90 million for being mediocre as frick???
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:35 pm to GamerAg
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So you are capable of rational, non-troll posts. Who knew? ?
Don't be naive
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:36 pm to WG_Dawg
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think he was saying LSu and UGA were close for the 2/3 spot on the list.
I think he was referring to in-store competition for talent but I could be misinterpreting.
And it was obviously an exceptional year for in-state HS FB players drafted
(We won't beat out Florida every year)
Louisiana does produce some exceptional
talent but their numbers seemed to have
flat-lined along with the states population.Thier talent pool was the ace in the hole for the program and will be interesting to see how it effects LSU FB moving forward
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:37 pm to Blackgloves
Now that is a subtle troll. Very nice!
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:38 pm to WG_Dawg
While UGA doesn’t get every player in Georgia they want. They get most of them. The bigger problem is evaluation. There are plenty of guys UGA doesn’t step on the gas for bc of system or low grade out of HS and they turn out to be difference makers. Believe it or not Will Anderson fits this bill. He was good, but he wasn’t prioritized like some others were. We didnt really recruit deshaun Watson.
It’s also why UGA can offer out of state kids faster than in state early bc they can’t afford to retract a scholarship to an in state kids and burn that relationship.
It’s also why UGA can offer out of state kids faster than in state early bc they can’t afford to retract a scholarship to an in state kids and burn that relationship.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:40 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
quote:A&M does the same thing, especially at QB
It’s also why UGA can offer out of state kids faster than in state early bc they can’t afford to retract a scholarship to an in state kids and burn that relationship.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:41 pm to RD Dawg
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Not really and seems as though the gap is widening.
states that produced the most NFL picks 2022
Georgia-30
Florida-22
Alabama-12
Tennessee-10
Louisiana-10
That's cherry picked info from one year of which Bama didn't dominate the draft and LSU sucked. Now do it over 5-10 years.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:45 pm to SidewalkTiger
I would say best jobs depends on your goals as a coach.
Win a Natty? Big 6 schools. However that comes with stress and high expectations that may lead to you getting canned after one or two average seasons.
Have a respectable program with a great season once in awhile due to SEC talent, but relatively low stress and long term job security as long as you make bowl games? Places like Arkansas, State, Carolina, Ole Miss, A&M are the best job choices. I’d argue guys like Fisher, Leach, Kiffin, Pittman have better jobs than Kelly, Heupal, Harsin right now. They make similar money with way lower expectations and pressure
Win a Natty? Big 6 schools. However that comes with stress and high expectations that may lead to you getting canned after one or two average seasons.
Have a respectable program with a great season once in awhile due to SEC talent, but relatively low stress and long term job security as long as you make bowl games? Places like Arkansas, State, Carolina, Ole Miss, A&M are the best job choices. I’d argue guys like Fisher, Leach, Kiffin, Pittman have better jobs than Kelly, Heupal, Harsin right now. They make similar money with way lower expectations and pressure
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