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re: Why no review on the safety
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:57 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:57 am to Aubie Spr96
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Wrong. All it has to do is break the plain same as a touchdown.
Not true. The entire ball has to get out. I think it did but it was very close. They should have looked at it
Think of it like a touchdown. If the ball crosses the plane, it is in the endzone. Same coming out. If any part of the ball is crossing the plane, its a safety
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 7:58 am
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:56 am to LanierSpots
The UK back had the ball out of the end zone just prior to the hit from #9.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:05 am to JamalSanders
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The UK back had the ball out of the end zone just prior to the hit from #9.
I thought it was pretty clear.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:27 am to Weagle25
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Announcer said you only have to get the tip of the ball past the goalline but that wasn’t true. You have to get the whole ball out
those announcers said a lot of stupid shite and I seriously question how qualified they are to announce a football game
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:29 am to Aubie Spr96
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Wrong. All it has to do is break the plain same as a touchdown.
Wrong.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:31 am to Aubie Spr96
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I thought it was pretty clear.
I thought it was pretty close. It may have come down to whether or not the ball was in an upright/more vertical position vs horizontal. If it was being held in a more upright position he probably had it all the way out but you couldn't tell from the camera angle.
Definitely was worth another look.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:33 am to beaver
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those announcers said a lot of stupid shite and I seriously question how qualified they are to announce a football game
Oh trust me I noticed.
The safety thing. Him talking about the QB needs to protect the ball and not take a sack because they’re in FG range when it would’ve been about a 80yard FG. Said another 3 and out for Auburn right after we got one or two first downs on the drive.
It almost felt like they were watching another game on the side while announcing ours
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:36 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:Nah it's gotta go all the way out
Wrong. All it has to do is break the plain same as a touchdown.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:38 am to auburnnyc94
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Definitely was worth another look.
Oh, I totally agree with this. However, after they reviewed a clear KY touchdown and said it wasn't AND THEN called that bullshite targeting on the interception return, replay proved it was a waste of time Saturday.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:43 am to CorchJay
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Dude clearly didn’t get out of the endzone completely with the ball
I thought the same until I saw the replay from a different angle and it certainly looked as though he got out.
However, I do think they probably should have taken a quick look at it.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:57 am to Aubie Spr96
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I’ll disagree here. The RBs initial momentum took him even or just over the goal line. Watched it twice.
That's the way I saw it. His initial surge just got the ball out from the EZ line. Anything after that didn't matter.
Also, once the call was made on the field, even a review would not have been conclusive to overturn it. Not with the camera angles.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:36 am to alpinetiger
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don't even think they're biased, instead they are just imcompetent.
I think they're biased and incompetent.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:04 pm to Aubie Spr96
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However, after they reviewed a clear KY touchdown and said it wasn't
Not as clear as I initially thought. His knee gets real close to the ground before he gets stood up. Still haven’t seen an angle that definitely shows the knee down or not.
I think he got in but I understand why they stuck with the call on the field.
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AND THEN called that bullshite targeting on the interception return
Again I see it. Think the rule is bullshite and it’s a weak call but I see what they saw which made them call it.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:45 pm to Weagle25
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The UK back had the ball out of the end zone just prior to the hit from #9.
You had a camera angle that showed past his back while he was carrying the ball in the left hand?
Produce it.
No camera proof to remove all doubt. Play on the field stands as called.
The ball is under the same rules as a touchdown. If the tip of the ball is over the line it's in the endzone. In/out doesn't matter it must cross the edge of the line closer to the one yard line. Out entirely. In by an eyelash.
There should have been a review ....But no one would have seen enough to overturn the call on the field.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:31 pm to bluedragon
... so you're saying fake news?
(I keed)
(I keed)
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:07 pm to Weagle25
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Announcer said you only have to get the tip of the ball past the goalline but that wasn’t true.
He corrected himself right after that.
You just can't tell if the balls out or not with the angle in the gif. His head/shoulders, which look to get out, but the ball is tucked and lower, so if we had an angle the other way, we'd have a better chance of knowing.
It still amazes me with the money that's in the game now why we(power 5 conferences as a whole) can't have high def cameras all over the fields for these reviews. How do we not have at least two cameras right down the goal lines?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:25 pm to kage
Seems to be a lot of confusion on what is a TD with the ball and what is a safety with the ball.
The front part of the white line facing the field (not the endzone) is the endzone plane.
For a touchdown only a portion of the ball has to break the plane from the field to be a touchdown.
On a safety the entire ball has to be across the entire field side plane of the goal line for it not to be a safety. If any portion of the ball is touching the plane of the field side of the goal line it is still a safety.
The front part of the white line facing the field (not the endzone) is the endzone plane.
For a touchdown only a portion of the ball has to break the plane from the field to be a touchdown.
On a safety the entire ball has to be across the entire field side plane of the goal line for it not to be a safety. If any portion of the ball is touching the plane of the field side of the goal line it is still a safety.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:46 pm to CorchJay
Let me clarify. The ball was in the runner's left arm. Based on the camera angle the left arm does not go past the goal line. However, there is no view allowing for the call on the field to be reversed.
Posted on 10/1/20 at 4:59 pm to bluedragon
So like was asked should it have been reviewed. Absolutely. That was my point
Posted on 10/1/20 at 5:27 pm to kage
quote:I'm not sure what the replay officials use, but an excellent 4K resolution camcorder runs around $3 grand for a Sony, even less for a Black Magic or equivalent. With 4K you can digitally zoom in with virtually no blurring of the image.
It still amazes me with the money that's in the game now why we(power 5 conferences as a whole) can't have high def cameras all over the fields for these reviews. How do we not have at least two cameras right down the goal lines?
It does defy explanation as to why there aren't small high resolution cameras with deep focus lenses mounted on the goallines and attached to the down and distance markers for every televised game.
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