re: What ridiculously stupid thing will Auburn University do?

I submitted a survey for UF (I have a degree from there too) on the subject of COVID, and it was rather obvious they simply wanted to know your political leanings. The first couple of sections were about wearing masks (or not), what your responsibilities are to other's health, etc. The last five or so questions were all related to where you get your news information, and it was all traditional media, including magazines and the MSM, which I found suprising. I think most here would agree regardless of your political leanings that those two segments - magazines and the MSM - don't carry much weight in this day and time. At least I *think* that is the case. I'll watch a snippet from network outlets but I've not tuned into any network for some time. Even TV shows are Netflix, Amazon, etc. and I don't have cable TV.

(edit) In this UF survey, you had the 'double-click' ability to not answer questions, so I simply did that for the media ones, because there wasn't a relevant answer I could give on the survey.

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Interesting that the actual people against whom he fomented hatred for his own political gain found it in their hearts to forgive him, but so many others cannot.

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So in order to forgive him I have to support a building being named after him?

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Shug Jordan's name is gonna have to come off the stadium. He killed some Frenchies in WW2.

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If he was out murdering our WW2 allies and/or civilians that would be a cause of concern.


I assume you mean Nazis.

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I assume you mean Nazis.

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Killing Nazis would be acceptable in our current landscape. I had to accuse him of something ridiculous.

Nah, the point was that you posted something that was incorrect and doubled down with a made up, ridiculous statement.

The funny thing is, I agree that no building on Auburn's campus should be named for him and I was surprised to find out that one was. I don't think he ever carried Auburn and I know when he came to crown the Homecoming queen, you could hear boos coming from the crowd.

BTW, he served another term as governor after he realized he was wrong and asked for forgiveness, so he kind of regained his influence and position -- still didn't win Auburn, however.

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Nah, the point was that you posted something that was incorrect and doubled down with a made up, ridiculous statement.

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The entire point of this thread is about renaming buildings. Are you that douche’s relative or something?

Not hardly. Just trying to help you overcome your ignorance, but I see it's hopeless.

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though he did do considerable harm when he was, for about 20 of his 80 years,

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I think you might have that backwards. He was running on segregation in the '72 election...so if he was born in 1919 then that is well into his 50's. Face it, he was for segregation and happened to change his mind when it was politically expedient for him to do so. He ma have changed his mind on segregation later in life but for what he did set Alabama back in many ways. He shouldn't have a building named after him at Auburn (in my opinion). Even if he didn't believe in segregation his whole life but just did it to get elected that is still repugnant in how he acted.

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He shouldn't have a building named after him at Auburn (in my opinion)

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Why did George Wallace even get a building in the first place? He doesn't seem deserving without all the other complications


It is crazy to me that people wouldn't want to rename a building named after George Wallace of all people.

He was known as a progressive judge and was the first to rule in favor of a black man in a lawsuit against a white man in his county. His run as a racist/segregationist was from the 60s to the 80s. He damaged the reputation of the state for much longer than that.

Steven Lesher wrote a pretty good biography on him that is worth reading. Personally, I don't think he was any more or less racist than most Alabama men of his time. I think he jumped on the segregation bandwagon for political purposes only, which may well be more evil than if he was just a misguided racist.

Who knows what was in his heart when he asked forgiveness, but the black people he hurt the most forgave him and, to me, that is the most remarkable part of the story.

And no, as I think I stated earlier, I don't think Auburn should have a building named for him and I don't really understand how that happened in the first place. If anything, name it for the folks who found it in their heart to forgive him.

Despite attempts to paint me as a Wallace fan or relative, I'm far from it. But I do like history (and accuracy) and I grew up in Alabama during those years. While he was never popular in our house or town, he was a significant political figure of the era, both in the state and throughout the nation. He was leading the Democratic field when he was shot in Maryland and Nixon co-opted some of his platform, especially the law and order parts.

I did go to one of his primary rallies in his last run. Despite being in a wheel chair and looking pretty rough, he could still give a speech -- and he had all the local Dems lined up behind him on the platform. I guess they wanted to hedge their bets, just in case he pulled off another victory, which he did.