re: What ridiculously stupid thing will Auburn University do?

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Great time to rename one after Coach Dye.

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The field is already named after him. No reason to name an academic building after a FB coach

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William J. Samford was a Confederate soldier.

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Unfortunately that fact right there is enough for some folks.

Just received that. The free form response route is an interesting decision

It’s apparently easy to overlook that many founding fathers were slave owners. “Celebrate their achievements in spite of their sins”

Jefferson, for one, bedded down his female slaves insulted the intelligence of Blacks and Indians in letters, talked about the slaves poor reasoning skills, and said they stunk. Dude was racist as all get out.

But the Calhouns and Samfords that fought for secession/ slavery are not to be forgiven despite their accomplishments. That seems to be the prevailing thought.


If that’s the way it should be, just do it uniformly.

Never read any of Samford’s work but it’s just weird that we have to automatically assume he was much worst than Jefferson. Calhoun was a nut and many of his primary sources were headache inducing painful to read.

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That’s mental gymnastics the SJW can tackle. According to them American slavery was not inherited, but created.

I suppose my head is cool enough but I’m not underway a conquest either lol.


I’m not sure why I’m a “y’all” though.

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ya’ll celebrating losers?

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I doubt the enduring building namesakes are celebrating Samford’s war affiliation....

Keep downvoting just means I got another one on the hook...

I think all agree how abhorrent slavery was but just as today (like I mentioned in prior post) learning from someone else or taking what someone says as fact makes you a fool.

The civil war was essentially a 4 issue war. 1st we know about the abolishing of slavery. Which the north had plenty of as well. Delaware and Pennsylvania were the first 2 states to really start pushing against slavery. 2nd was a religious or spiritual differences. Many northern states were catholic and episcopal. Both mostly going off church tradition over biblical text. Southern states were mostly baptist Presbyterian and other Protestant denominations. Southern preachers were the “news media” of the 1860s in the south. They taught strictly from the Bible and OT figures owned slaves and even in the New Testament in the Pauline books that many pastors preach from today Paul returns a slave to his owner. So the pastors would get the congregation in a tizzy about it was “God’s will” to own slaves. 3rd was the genealogy of the settlers. Most southern settlers were Scottish, most northern settlers were British and some Irish. No the Irish were not slaves they came as endentured servants meaning they could work off their debt of the cost someone paid for them to move from Europe to the States. The Brits and Scots hated each other. 4th you had the Morrill Tariff. After some southern states started pulling their representatives out of congress they passed the tariffs on the southern states so that industry in the north would be able to provide cheaper goods and high pay for workers. The tariffs were about 48% taxation. Lincoln hailed as the guy who freed the slaves didn’t care one way or another. He just wanted to hold the union together. He even tried to get Lee to command the northern army. State independence was strong in those days and Lee would not fight against his Virginian brothers.

Also slavery was not a long time ago. Maybe 3-4 generations. In fact blacks have been free from slavery a shorter time then they were in slavery. Case in point my grandfather was born in 1892. That means his father was around during slave days. Also there was not 400 years of slavery in the US. It was around 237 years. Children graduating high school now and up to 40ish are the first generation of people that don’t remember segregation.

I understand the frustrations of everyone involved and I truly believe we are not a racist country. However, there are some very well deserved hurt feelings and and just plain ignorant people in the world in 1860 and in 2020. But I plead with everyone learn, study, investigate what you say you believe in.

Lastly, I will add this BLM is a Marxist/communist faction. It’s organization takes in hundreds of millions of dollars. When you donate to BLM you are donating to a PAC called ActBlue which donates to the DNC and individuals and the top 10 people that get pac money from them are all white except a few million to Andrew Yang. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders received over $100 million each from ActBlue.

Be careful what you stand for!!

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My only opinion is I don't care about statues or anything like that but those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

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I learned my history from books, not statues that were erected 75 years after the Civil War to placate people who were worked up about civil rights.