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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:11 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:11 pm to AUTiger789
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There are zero sure bets available
I'm not even sure Kiffin is a sure bet. I mean, yes, he will win a lot of games. But will he ever win a championship? We don't know. I certainly don't know, anyway.
That is why, short of what we all agree is extraordinarily unlikely (Lanning, Smart, Day), I am ok with Sumrall. His potential ceiling is immeasurable. Of course, so is his potential floor. But...frick it. Worst thing that can happen is we're right back here in 3 years (again). Best thing that can happen is we've hit the next Lanning, Smart, Day.
The way I look at it, we didn't fire Gus for perennially going 8-4 just to suffer through 2 shite years with potato, 3 shite years with Freeze, and then settle for a guy who will perennially go 8-4. Is that what this half-decade death march through football hell has been for? To end up back where we started? Let's go boom or bust. That appears to me to be Sumrall.
That said...I remain open to suggestions.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:14 pm to AUTiger789
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Drink not being able to land talent in six seasons in Columbia is not a winning argument.
He is at a program that has a clear talent ceiling, genius. He has locked down their state and has even signed multiple 5-stars. But there is a limit to not only how much in-state talent they have, but also how much NIL they have to play with. He has landed talent.
This is the argument that we are going with now? We expect MISSOURI to recruit at the level of Bama, LSU, Georgia, or even Auburn?
The only reason why he would even consider leaving Missouri for LSU, Penn State, or Auburn is because of the glass ceiling that exists at Missouri. Literally the same reason why Kiffin would even consider leaving Ole Miss. If either of these two could just easily recruit like the name programs in the SEC, they wouldn't bother even leaving.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:16 pm to AUCE05
I think UT would snag Kiffin and by then Kiffin is so much closer to the west coast that I would worry less about him.
LSU and Florida will circle back to Drink.
At some point we need to hire the next Eric Morris and forget about the safe bets. The older coaches and coaches with baggage are not healing the fanbase. If it's not Urban go young and start fresh.
LSU and Florida will circle back to Drink.
At some point we need to hire the next Eric Morris and forget about the safe bets. The older coaches and coaches with baggage are not healing the fanbase. If it's not Urban go young and start fresh.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:16 pm to NewYrkTiger
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I am ok with Sumrall. His potential ceiling is immeasurable.
If we’re going to keep gambling with new coaches every three seasons, it’s better to limit our buyout exposure to the $10-15 million range and not the $50-$60 million range.
Since there are no proven coaches on the market, I’d much prefer an up-and-comer.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:16 pm to AUCE05
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In his defense, Odem was possibly the worst recruiter in the SEC the past decade.
Also in his defense, he is at f’ing Mizzou. Not a hotbed of talent or a destination that really excites top tier talent from Florida or Texas, yet he still pulls good talent from there. Mizzou has been mostly terrible for my whole life outside of a few years of Gary Pinkel.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:20 pm to AUTiger1978
You arent telling me anything. Drink is the best in my mind if Sunrall, etc is the other options.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:22 pm to AUTiger1978
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Also in his defense, he is at f’ing Mizzou. Not a hotbed of talent or a destination that really excites top tier talent from Florida or Texas, yet he still pulls good talent from there. Mizzou has been mostly terrible for my whole life outside of a few years of Gary Pinkel.
Exactly. He has basically exhausted everything they have at Missouri. They don't have an amazing in-state pool of talent, nor do they have some billionaire booster to throw millions around to go into other states and out-recruit big name programs.
Any idiot who coaches at Auburn has access to millions of dollars to play with and built-in recruiting advantages. That is the difference.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:23 pm to slacker130
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Why do you care what we pay?
I'd rather pay the amount required to get a great coach than get a good deal on meh.
Ohh i'm down to go big. I'd give Kiffin, Lanning, Freeman ect 10+ million and whatever else they wanted.
What I don't want to do is end up paying Summral 9 million or Drink 10 million
There just isn't enough data there to warrant that when we could promote DJ for 5mill and use the other on assistants.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:26 pm to jangalang
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Would we entertain Sark?
We should I wanted him when he was leaving bama. Don't think he has any ties to Troy tho
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:31 pm to AUtigR24
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We should I wanted him when he was leaving bama. Don't think he has any ties to Troy tho
Sark sucks. All the money and resources in the world at Texas and he is going backwards. Supposed offensive/QB genius and yet Arch Manning is completely mid. He also refuses to give up play-calling despite the fact that his offense is going backwards.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:33 pm to metafour
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He is at a program that has a clear talent ceiling, genius.
Missouri’s roster is rated 12th in the SEC per 247Sports. There is no ceiling that should prevent a team with a good coach from getting to at least 10th in the league. Sorry but that’s just the truth.
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This is the argument that we are going with now? We expect MISSOURI to recruit at the level of Bama?
Whoever said that? Like truly who is saying that???
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The only reason why he would even consider leaving Missouri for LSU, Penn State, or Auburn is because of the glass ceiling that exists at Missouri.
Nah. Drink is itching to get out of Mizzou because he knows he’s about to get exposed when the new scheduling format comes out next season. Mizzou lucked up being in the East, and then during this 2-season interim scheduling format, the SEC office gave them a very formidable schedule.
Ranked Opponents faced since 2020:
32- Georgia
31- Alabama
28- Florida, Oklahoma, Texas
26- Auburn, Miss St
25- S Carolina, Tennessee
24- Kentucky
23- Arkansas, LSU
22- Texas A&M, Vanderbilt
20- Missouri
19- Ole Miss
The schedules are about to get more even when we go to 9 games and a rotation. Drink knows his window to leave is now… before everyone realizes that with his 4-16 record against ranked teams, he’s really only had a decent record because he’s faced a much less difficult schedule.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:38 pm to NewYrkTiger
Here is the question regarding Kiffin (or Lanning, Smart, Day, Freeman, or anyone else who is about 90%+ to make the playoffs). What happens?
I mean, let's say we secure a verbal from Kiffin (or any of those other guys) the Sunday after the Iron Bowl. Do we expect him for forego taking his team to the playoffs so that we can announce his hiring right away? Would we even want to hire a guy who walked out on his team for a new job just as he was about to take them to the playoffs? (I wouldn't.)
But so then what? Is it announced, but he stays with his team through the playoff run? (You think his current school/players would have a little bitterness? That wouldn't really be good for anyone.)
Or is it all kept hush-hush until his team is out of the playoffs? That means we'd miss the early signing period and the portal, which I'd be ok with, in exchange for getting the right guy long-term. But he can't actually go ahead and sign a contract with us while he is still coaching another team (at best the wording would be complicated and his current school would have to be told...which would take us back to his current school being salty about the entire thing and making it public, which would defeat the purpose of trying to keep it hush-hush).
Or do we just cross our fingers that he doesn't go back on his word? Because what if mid-January rolls around and his team finally loses and he tells us he has had a change of heart? Then we have to resume our coaching search...weeks after everyone else has already filled their respective positions.
To me, that uber mess is why we can't hire Kiffin or anyone else in the playoffs. It creates a logistical nightmare that I am not sure can be successfully navigated.
That problem is true with everyone else, of course. I mean, what if (let's say) Kiffin does go to (let's say) Florida. Does he leave before the playoffs start? Coach Ole Miss in the playoffs as a lame duck? Or does Florida just wait quietly and hope he signs on the dotted line when the Rebels are finally out of the playoffs (sometime between Thanksgiving and MLK Day)?
These thoughts really have been bothering me all along. I guess I was just too shy to ask until now.
I mean, let's say we secure a verbal from Kiffin (or any of those other guys) the Sunday after the Iron Bowl. Do we expect him for forego taking his team to the playoffs so that we can announce his hiring right away? Would we even want to hire a guy who walked out on his team for a new job just as he was about to take them to the playoffs? (I wouldn't.)
But so then what? Is it announced, but he stays with his team through the playoff run? (You think his current school/players would have a little bitterness? That wouldn't really be good for anyone.)
Or is it all kept hush-hush until his team is out of the playoffs? That means we'd miss the early signing period and the portal, which I'd be ok with, in exchange for getting the right guy long-term. But he can't actually go ahead and sign a contract with us while he is still coaching another team (at best the wording would be complicated and his current school would have to be told...which would take us back to his current school being salty about the entire thing and making it public, which would defeat the purpose of trying to keep it hush-hush).
Or do we just cross our fingers that he doesn't go back on his word? Because what if mid-January rolls around and his team finally loses and he tells us he has had a change of heart? Then we have to resume our coaching search...weeks after everyone else has already filled their respective positions.
To me, that uber mess is why we can't hire Kiffin or anyone else in the playoffs. It creates a logistical nightmare that I am not sure can be successfully navigated.
That problem is true with everyone else, of course. I mean, what if (let's say) Kiffin does go to (let's say) Florida. Does he leave before the playoffs start? Coach Ole Miss in the playoffs as a lame duck? Or does Florida just wait quietly and hope he signs on the dotted line when the Rebels are finally out of the playoffs (sometime between Thanksgiving and MLK Day)?
These thoughts really have been bothering me all along. I guess I was just too shy to ask until now.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:41 pm to metafour
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Sark sucks?
Do we take a chance that he might start hitting the bottle again?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:41 pm to jangalang
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Would we entertain Sark?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:21 pm to AUTiger789
Who in the hell wants to pay Drinkwitz 10-12 million?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:33 pm to AU86
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Who in the hell wants to pay Drinkwitz 10-12 million?
Not me.
He makes $9 mil at Mizzou already so if he takes another job, you’ve got to think he’s trying for that salary range.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:36 pm to AUTiger789
Ashton not playing Saturday per DJ
Posted on 11/17/25 at 2:04 pm to The_SwAUggford
Im 100% on Sumrall train. I want a defensive head coach now. Tired of trying offensive geniuses that forget how to offense. Don't want anyone from the Malzahn coaching tree either.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:14 pm to AuburnCPA
James Franklin to VT.
I guess he got the message that Auburn was a no.
I guess he got the message that Auburn was a no.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:22 pm to AU86
Update for 11/17/25 Added update Kiffin to sign contract with LSU
The Coaching Change board is SURE that it’s Kiffin to LSU. They’ve had 3 plane threads today. Hahahahahahahaha
The Coaching Change board is SURE that it’s Kiffin to LSU. They’ve had 3 plane threads today. Hahahahahahahaha
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