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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:00 am to AUTiger789
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:00 am to AUTiger789
He's a roll of the dice. But probably the safer one vs. Sumrall or Durk.
I'm fine with Sumrall or Durk. I'm hoping for some other names to get traction in the next 10 days just for fun and intrigue, but if you told me it would be one of the two, I'd be fine with it.
I'm fine with Sumrall or Durk. I'm hoping for some other names to get traction in the next 10 days just for fun and intrigue, but if you told me it would be one of the two, I'd be fine with it.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:09 am to FlyDownTheField
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They were an annual joke of a team before him.
Simply not true. Gary Pinkel appeared in 2 SEC Championship games. 10 bowl games. It's clear that Barry Odem was the most recent problem.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:10 am to Pettifogger
Frick i'd take durkin for 5 mill before we pay Drink 10 mill
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:13 am to smuphy72
LOL the justification of a Malzahn descendant when Auburn has a chance to move forward.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:16 am to AUTiger789
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They played for the SEC Title in 2013 and 2014.
Gary Pinkel was 10-36 against ranked opponents (.235). Drinkwitz is 4-16 (.200). Nothing Drinkwitz has done is an improvement over what Mizzou had already accomplished since joining the SEC.
When they played for the SEC title in 2013 and 2014 the SEC East was a joke. The second best team in 2013 was South Carolina, and Georgia fielded an 8-win team that season. This was the tail-end of Mark Richt's tenure at Georgia. Both Tennessee and Florida were a joke.
Why didn't you bother to reference Pinkel's 2015 team that went 5-7? You'll notice that in that season UGA won 10 games, Florida won 10 games, and Tennessee won 9.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:31 am to metafour
Drinkwitz is a perfect 22-0 at Missouri when his team is favored going into the game.
That means that all of his "big SEC losses" have come to teams that Vegas had concluded were better than them. Sure, it would be great if he managed an upset or two, but these aren't very likely in the first place. Nobody in the SEC is consistently upsetting better teams than their own.
This isn't complicated: in the SEC, the coaches who pull off multiple wins vs. the "big-dogs" are either at other big-dog programs that field comparable talent (ie: UGA beats Bama, or Bama beats LSU, or A&M beats Oklahoma, etc.) or they are at a program that has less overall talent, but they have an elite QB which acts as an equalizer (like Vanderbilt this season). Missouri is at a clear talent disadvantage in every matchup to UGA, Bama, etc. and they have not had an elite QB on any of these recent rosters to compensate. This is why Drinkwitz loses those games.
James Franklin always losing to top teams is bad because he was coaching at a ~Top 3-4 Big Ten program that had talent and resources. Drinkwitz losing those same matchups is expected because he is at a bottom-feeder SEC program that has a ceiling. There is a big difference there.
That means that all of his "big SEC losses" have come to teams that Vegas had concluded were better than them. Sure, it would be great if he managed an upset or two, but these aren't very likely in the first place. Nobody in the SEC is consistently upsetting better teams than their own.
This isn't complicated: in the SEC, the coaches who pull off multiple wins vs. the "big-dogs" are either at other big-dog programs that field comparable talent (ie: UGA beats Bama, or Bama beats LSU, or A&M beats Oklahoma, etc.) or they are at a program that has less overall talent, but they have an elite QB which acts as an equalizer (like Vanderbilt this season). Missouri is at a clear talent disadvantage in every matchup to UGA, Bama, etc. and they have not had an elite QB on any of these recent rosters to compensate. This is why Drinkwitz loses those games.
James Franklin always losing to top teams is bad because he was coaching at a ~Top 3-4 Big Ten program that had talent and resources. Drinkwitz losing those same matchups is expected because he is at a bottom-feeder SEC program that has a ceiling. There is a big difference there.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:32 am to AUTiger789
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As I’ve been saying, each new firing creates a worse group of potential candidates.
Yet
Our job attractiveness has improved since Harsin.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:34 am to AUCom96
I like Drink and I think he is smart and shrewd, but I wonder about his killer instinct or lack there of. If he could keep DJD it might work, but he’s not on top of my list.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:37 am to pdfield34
Since Drink took the Mizzou job, his teams and Auburn have had 28 common opponents during those six seasons.
Auburn was 10-18 in those games.
Mizzou was 13-15 in those games.
Auburn’s average score against those 28 opponents was:
Auburn- 22.2
Opponent- 25.5
(Averaged losing by 3.3 points per contest)
Missouri’s average score against those 28 opponents was:
Missouri- 23.5
Opponent- 30.0
(Averaged losing by 6.5 points per contest).
A 28-game sample spread out over 6 seasons is no small sample (we’ll add three more by the end of this season also). And yet Drink’s record is only 3 wins better and his margin of victory is actually worse than Auburn’s due to lots of blowout losses.
Keep in mind Missouri’s 13-15 record against these opponents was during one coach’s tenure… six years of stability. Auburn’s 10-18 record (but closer point margin) came spread out over three different coaches and 2 interim coaches.
There’s barely any measurable difference between Drink’s record and Auburn’s record against common opponents during the darkest six seasons in modern Auburn football history… yet some of you are acting like throwing this man $10 million+ per season is a “safe” bet.
Good Lord I’ve seen it all. How we can fire Harsin and Freeze and then elevate someone who is on their same level takes a special kind of stupid.
Auburn was 10-18 in those games.
Mizzou was 13-15 in those games.
Auburn’s average score against those 28 opponents was:
Auburn- 22.2
Opponent- 25.5
(Averaged losing by 3.3 points per contest)
Missouri’s average score against those 28 opponents was:
Missouri- 23.5
Opponent- 30.0
(Averaged losing by 6.5 points per contest).
A 28-game sample spread out over 6 seasons is no small sample (we’ll add three more by the end of this season also). And yet Drink’s record is only 3 wins better and his margin of victory is actually worse than Auburn’s due to lots of blowout losses.
Keep in mind Missouri’s 13-15 record against these opponents was during one coach’s tenure… six years of stability. Auburn’s 10-18 record (but closer point margin) came spread out over three different coaches and 2 interim coaches.
There’s barely any measurable difference between Drink’s record and Auburn’s record against common opponents during the darkest six seasons in modern Auburn football history… yet some of you are acting like throwing this man $10 million+ per season is a “safe” bet.
Good Lord I’ve seen it all. How we can fire Harsin and Freeze and then elevate someone who is on their same level takes a special kind of stupid.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:37 am to AUTiger789
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Enlighten us, clown.
Calling metafour a clown is certainly a choice.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:38 am to jangalang
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Our job attractiveness has improved since Harsin.
Yes thank God for this amazing crop of candidates we have beating down our door.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:39 am to AUtigR24
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Frick i'd take durkin for 5 mill before we pay Drink 10 mill
Why do you care what we pay?
I'd rather pay the amount required to get a great coach than get a good deal on meh.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:45 am to AUTiger789
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Since Drink took the Mizzou job, his teams and Auburn have had 28 common opponents during those six seasons.
Wow, its almost as if even under bad coaching Auburn naturally fields more overall talent than Missouri.
The past two Auburn teams that lost to Missouri had more talent top to bottom.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:47 am to metafour
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The past two Auburn teams that lost to Missouri had more talent top to bottom.
Drink not being able to land talent in six seasons in Columbia is not a winning argument.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:51 am to AUTiger789
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Yes thank God for this amazing crop of candidates we have beating down our door.
Penn State and LSU are having the same issues. There is not a large crop of top candidates out there. Who is out there?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:56 am to jangalang
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Penn State and LSU are having the same issues. There is not a large crop of top candidates out there. Who is out there?
There are zero sure bets available other than the program willing to pay enough to win the Kiffin sweepstakes. Thats kinda been my take now since 2020.
What do they say is the definition of insanity?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:56 am to jangalang
Some talk on the rant that Stark may be fired.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:01 pm to AUTiger789
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There are zero sure bets available other than the program willing to pay enough to win the Kiffin sweepstakes. Thats kinda been my take now since 2020.
Either way to say our job became less attractive since firing Hugh is incorrect. Riding with Hugh was no longer an option. There are guys we can attract without calling it quits on trying. We dont want safe bets on performing better than Hugh but if that's your only criteria then why wouldn't Drinkwitz be a safe bet? Your take all along has been if you fire you better have a plan to upgrade.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:03 pm to AUCE05
Would we entertain Sark?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:06 pm to jangalang
They are saying female related. Not after Freeze
ETA
UT would be a problem if open.
ETA
UT would be a problem if open.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 12:08 pm
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