re: there is a problem in the Atheletic department

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Even if that is so, he should be out there getting money from outside to help. Not just saving. Raising funds is a huge part of his job and like it or not, that was something JJ was great at. I think he being part of the "good ole boy system" , as so many of you like to say, helped in that part.

There are so many parts to his job. He must be good at all of them unfortunately. I would not want that job.

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The fact that whoever is part of the PTB(Board, boosters, President of AU), they have hired for the 2 most important jobs in Auburn athletics, the AD and the football coach, both outsiders.

So someone wants Auburn to take a new direction otherwise why bring in these 2 outsiders?

That is why it is baffling that the President basically has put someone else in charge of the AD operations in Lt. Gen Burgess, and is making Greene report to him for now.

I wonder if Greene agreed to this setup in order to mediate the internal issues coaches are having.

I remember when Greene was hired, one of his strengths was fund raising. I just wonder if he has been successful in the 3+ years he has been on the job?

to the doode who told me to go frick myself why shoot the messenger? i am a greene fan and will be until i know for a fact he is hurting my beloved tigers. and do you want to know whats going on at auburn or not? you are on an auburn board and i am pretty sure it is to discuss the latest. and the fact you jumped to conclusions makes you a fool. quit assuming crap.

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The whole riding bus to away games and stuff, I really have no idea what that was truly about. That was definitely odd.

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saving money. I don't agree with it, but I am also not privy to Auburn's books.

We were 12th in SEC sports. Greene is catching hell about that.............the truth is, JJ hired the vast majority of HC's who have us in that ranking.

Gogue had announced his retirement. Burgess is trusted and impressive individual. The Leath hiring was unbelievable bad. This is about the non revenue sports. . Burgess is also credited with being a big part of getting the football only facility done.

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The Leath hiring was unbelievable bad.

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I'm still baffled how Leath was hired given his acerbic personaility and the baggage he had. Not a typical AU decision IMO. One of the main themes was that he was going to advance AU to an R1 research university status, but that is a decade-long path which was set in motion under Gouge.

He wanted to fire Pearl. Let that sink in.

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I posted this topic in another thread that was bashing Greene. It got crickets. I guess people don’t care.

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My only worry would be that Greene gets kicked to the curb, and Harsin has no cover to get his program installed, which will take 4 years of recruits. A new AD comes in and wants to put his stamp on the athletic department and all of a sudden AU becomes Tennessee or the New York Jets organization. Harsin was definitely a Greene hire, and it may not sit well with some factions. If you remember Tubs didn't take the Arky job because the alums who matter weren't all on the same page with his potential hiring. The next year he's the coach at AU. I just want Harsin to get a fair shake.

Saw there was a VIP article from PMarsh titled “Greene's Auburn story still to be told”.

Any tidbits of info, or just JABA blithering?

A couple of interesting notes. But as someone else stated, I’d take it all with a grain of salt considering the Aubie insiders have a poor track record.

- Greene was hired by Leath and that arrangement worked for both Leath and Greene because Leath liked to be involved with athletics and Greene only had 3 years under his belt at Buffalo. Leath is fired. Enter Gogue who didn’t hire Greene and the dynamic shifts where Gogue doesn’t want direct involvement with athletics. Greene continues the budget cuts directed to him by Leath, in PM estimation, because nobody told him otherwise, especially as Covid enters the picture and finances are more uncertain

- Olympic sport coaches put pressure on Gogue to get the AD to push more money their way. They organize and voice their concerns to Gogue after the athletics year’s end. Gogue, still unwilling to get directly involved, directs Burgess to step in and work with Greene in managing the department through the post budget-cut phase.

The other note that I found more interesting is that Greene wasn’t on board with firing Gus. Allegedly, Gogue stops an effort to name Steele HC and gives Greene the authority to run the search and ultimately signed off on Harsin’s hire.

All of this seems impossible to know with accuracy but that’s his article in summary

Looks credible enough. Only thing I find odd is Leath wanting the recognition when sports are winning but slashing the budgets of each sport by 10 percent. Little counterintuitive on his part if he wanted to be the hero.

I’m guessing now that part of why Leath was hired at Auburn was due to his intent to be involved in athletics. Guessing that appealed to the board at that time.

Something to pay attention to is Auburn’s president search with Gogue stepping down. I could see a new president wanting a different AD, especially if they’re more like Gogue than Leath