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there is a problem in the Atheletic department
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:10 am
Gogue planted his VP Lt. Gen Burgess in the Athletic Dept and supposedly to take care of issues that seemed to include coaches concerned and ticked about their budgets and the micro managing of things like buses vs planes, cheaper hotels, etc.It would appear Greene has upset a lot of folks and even after covid he rarely comes in the office and does most of his stuff on zoom and has others delegated to doing things he normally does. take it with a grain of salt but it is on another site. i think him stepping in to do a real search instead of letting Steele have the job is at the root of a lot but not all of it{ my personal opinion}.He made a lot of the PTB's mad and now trimming budgets and how has almost all of athletic departments upset.
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:36 am to aubierawks
Go frick yourself
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:53 am to blzr
So that is where Greene needs to get new PTB as we did after the Lowder fiasco. We have more than just Jimmy Rane.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:01 am to aubierawks
I posted this topic in another thread that was bashing Greene. It got crickets. I guess people don’t care.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:10 am to aubierawks
So this is a weird situation because I think everyone has been behind AG after the Harsin hire, but this situation paints him in a negative light (essentially holding athletic programs back due to budget issues). Supposedly Burgess is there to make sure the programs have what they need to compete with our rivals, which is something we've all been asking for. I'm not really sure what to make of it all, but I hope in the end we don't have another athletic disaster like 2020. Maybe we'll finally start seeing the financial moves we've been asking for.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:31 am to jangalang
So many people here loved them some Greene and praised the hire. Even though a lot of them really knew nothing about him
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:45 am to LanierSpots
quote:Same reason so many were happy with the Harsin hire: we’ve all seen the effects of decades of inbreeding in the AU Athletic Dept (and for that matter AU in general) and see these as tentative steps towards a more meritocratic, businesslike approach.
So many people here loved them some Greene and praised the hire. Even though a lot of them really knew nothing about him
Of course they both run the risk of failing, which will no doubt bring back the “we should have kept it in the fambly” crowd. Maybe if we run AG off we can get JJ back.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:54 am to aubierawks
Has Green been job searching for awhile? Has he interviewed at different places for the AD position? Is this rumor or fact? Have heard it but I don't know if true.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:56 am to AUEE13
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Maybe we'll finally start seeing the financial moves we've been asking for.
Such as....?
I don't think it's a facilities thing as much as it is an operational problem for these coaches.
And with Harsin here and if he is trying to recruit much farther out, then his budget for recruiting HAS to expand. His and some of his coaches connections are far west, and that cost is going up. And if AG is going to limit him too then that IS a problem for a new coach trying to instill a new 'culture'.
And I wouldn't doubt one bit that if he ruffled some egos during the coach search, then they are definitely going to find ways to get him out...
...but PLEASE...it better not end up bring in another GOB like T. Jackson..
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:01 am to FearlessFreep
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Same reason so many were happy with the Harsin hire: we’ve all seen the effects of decades of inbreeding in the AU Athletic Dept (and for that matter AU in general) and see these as tentative steps towards a more meritocratic, businesslike approach.
Make no mistake bro, no matter what system is in place, there will always be "inbreeding" as you put it. Just look at the Harsin hire. He basically brought his entire staff with him. With changes, you are basically doing that. You are changing one group of guys for another.
Auburn has had a system for many years that basically worked for them. If you remove that group of guys and bring in a new group, they will bring people, systems, etc with them that they are a custom to.
It is like swapping women. You just get a different set of problems.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:02 am to AuSteeler
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Such as....?
Jordan-Hare update, baseball facilities upgrade, and (I think?) the soccer facility are some that I've heard mentioned.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:19 am to AUEE13
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Jordan-Hare update, baseball facilities upgrade, and (I think?) the soccer facility are some that I've heard mentioned.
I have heard those too, but I still think its operational issues that is frustrating the coaches.
AG has only been here 3 years, and he has gotten started the FPC, added softball and baseball indoor practice facilities. There is MUCH that needs to be done like you mentioned and it's possible he is too frugal and not with vision.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:50 am to aubierawks
How many times does this have to be stated on this board: AUBURN HAS NO frickING INSIDERS!!!! They don't exist. No one you know or have any interaction with has inside information on the Auburn athletic department. Everything you hear like this is supposition or innuendo. Bama on the other hand......
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:51 am to AuSteeler
I have no idea the inner workings of an athletic department, but I'm sure if the money was there Greene would spend it, right?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:55 am to AuSteeler
He implemented a 10% budget reduction in the first year he was here. He fired multiple AD department staff. Nothing AD Greene has done seems to moving AU forward. Is a peanut counter when money is flowing out of the coffers. He may be relatable to the players on the different teams but what the hell does that do?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:03 am to CorchJay
AuSteeler Greene was on the War Rapport a couple weeks ago and had decent discussion and the recruiting budget came up. Greene was very noncommittal about it… essentially saying if you want more recruiting budget you have to move money from other areas from the football allotment.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:25 am to aubierawks
Again, zero proof. The old guard is mad they are losing power and put out rumors. So glad JJ/Gus are gone. Time to purge their supporters.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:32 am to AUCE05
Budget reductions have been reported in multiple articles. No I’m not linking any go look for yourself. It’s been an issue since year one.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:36 am to AUCE05
Truth typically lives in the nuance and probably comes down somewhere between the fact that coaches are exhausted by budget constraints and the good ol’ boys mad that Greene isn’t using their input on recent coaching hires.
Something is going to come to a head but it doesn’t mean anyone is completely wrong or right here. I’m betting parts of all of it are accurate
Something is going to come to a head but it doesn’t mean anyone is completely wrong or right here. I’m betting parts of all of it are accurate
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:39 am to CorchJay
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He implemented a 10% budget reduction in the first year he was here. He fired multiple AD department staff. Nothing AD Greene has done seems to moving AU forward. Is a peanut counter when money is flowing out of the coffers. He may be relatable to the players on the different teams but what the hell does that do?
I tend to agree with you but I wonder what Greene's instructions were when he was hired? Was he told to not spend and to reduce cost? Who knows.
Even if that is so, he should be out there getting money from outside to help. Not just saving. Raising funds is a huge part of his job and like it or not, that was something JJ was great at. I think he being part of the "good ole boy system" , as so many of you like to say, helped in that part.
There are so many parts to his job. He must be good at all of them unfortunately. I would not want that job.
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