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Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:37 am to CorchJay
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:37 am to CorchJay
I have no idea about the veracity of this
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:38 am to CorchJay
1. Franklin
2.Golesh
3.Lea
4. Sumrall
5. Hartline
2.Golesh
3.Lea
4. Sumrall
5. Hartline
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:41 am to CorchJay
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Mullen is a good x's and o's coach but if you liked Terry Bowden recruiting I'd stay far away
Mullen puts about as much effort in recruiting as Harsin did.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:44 am to CorchJay
The goal needs to get the program back on track. I don't want 8 win seasons, or 10 win seasons that don't matter for shite if we aren't deep into the playoffs and we are not back to beating Georgia and Bama on a regular basis. James Franklin would be a ticket to the late Malzahn years. Yes, that is better than the last 5 years, but not where we need to be. Indiana probably has a huge buyout on Curt Cignetti, and I think they are already paying him a mint, but you can't deny the results. 18-2 and Indiana. Quick turnaround and playoffs first season. Coached receivers at Alabama under Saban, so is familiar with SEC.
From winning 9 games the 3 seasons prior, to winning 11 in year one.
From winning 9 games the 3 seasons prior, to winning 11 in year one.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:21 am to AUveritas
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I have no idea about the veracity of this
There is not much veracity to this.
Cohen would never hire someone just because they coached at Troy and are from Alabama.
Highly unlikely and incredibly stupid to eat $2.5 MM x however many years Durkin is owed.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:27 am to pdfield34
What are you talking about?
You’ll be hard pressed to find another G5 head coach that appears more ready. As far as G5 coaches Sumrall is number 1 for me as well. He’s a tough as nails kind of coach.
You’ll be hard pressed to find another G5 head coach that appears more ready. As far as G5 coaches Sumrall is number 1 for me as well. He’s a tough as nails kind of coach.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:41 am to wareagle7298
If the goal is getting the program back on track, then Franklin is who you hire
You don't roll the dice again on a complete unknown. You take the high floor that is begging for a chance to prove PSU made a mistake.
You don't roll the dice again on a complete unknown. You take the high floor that is begging for a chance to prove PSU made a mistake.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:58 am to wareagle7298
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Indiana probably has a huge buyout on Curt Cignetti,
I believe it is 60 mil...I was wanting him when they hired Freeze. People on the coaching search thread was shooting him down. Dude is one arrogant SOB but he wins. Kind of like Myer. He will be a power at Indiana and probably won't move. They have money and will keep him around. He runs a RPO offense that actually does RPO.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:01 am to AUveritas
Imagine saying, hey, if he loses to Arky then we will fire him.
He hasn’t already shown us enough?
That has to be made up.
He hasn’t already shown us enough?
That has to be made up.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:01 am to 88TIger
Cig is an odd guy. He fits at Indiana. He does not practice a ton, and has the same staff/ never fires them. He just doesn't fit in a pressure cooker type program. Our fan base would eat him up.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:02 am to Pettifogger
quote:fify, circa November 2022
You don't roll the dice again on a complete unknown. You take the high floor that is begging for a chance to prove Ole Miss/NCAA made a mistake.
we tried this already, hasn’t worked out
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:07 am to Pettifogger
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You don't roll the dice again on a complete unknown. You take the high floor that is begging for a chance to prove PSU made a mistake.
You need to actually look at past history to understand how foolish this line of thinking is. It is a recipe for disaster.
1) If there was anything even remotely close to a "safe hire"; you wouldn't see schools firing coaches every year. Or schools going on 3-4 failed hires in a row. Schools don't fail multiple times in a row because nobody came up with the bright idea to go for the safe hire". In fact, most AD's default to leaning towards the "safe hire".
THE SAFE HIRE DOES NOT EXIST. Luke Fickell was the safest of "safe hires". Dan Mullen at Florida was the safest of "safe hires".
2) "Complete unknowns" make up a high percentage of the most successful coaches in the country. The actual data can not be ignored. Last I checked, the most successful candidate group actually comes from elevated P5 coordinators. One of the least successful candidate groups is recently-fired head coaches from other P5 schools. And I'm kind of shocked that people don't see the obvious red-flag here: why would you jump to someone who just got fired for failing and assume that this person will succeed? Most coaches DO NOT "change", nor do they "learn from mistakes". Since most of these guys are egomaniacs, they will actually default to doubling-down on whatever led them to failing in the first place. Hugh Freeze is about to get fired because he refused to adapt.
You can point to Kiffin all you want, but that guy had to go back to reinventing himself as an OC under Saban and then re-proving himself at FAU before he got his next real shot. The whole point there is that he actually proved that something changed. He didn't go from being fired at USC to being rewarded with an SEC HC job the next day.
And the psychology at play here should be clear with a guy like Franklin: if you go ahead and reward him with the HC title at Auburn after what just happened at Penn State, you are basically telling him that he was right, and Penn State was wrong. Why would he change anything?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:09 am to AUveritas
Why would we wait until the outcome of the Arky game? We haven't won an SEC game this year, and no real discernable changes have been made. Beating a shitty Arky team that has already fired their coach buys Freeze another week? Meanwhile, all those teams who are actively doing a coach search, may get Sumerall before Freeze is even let go.
We will end up with Lashlee.
We will end up with Lashlee.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:09 am to FearlessFreep
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fify, circa November 2022
we tried this already, hasn’t worked out
LOL, sure, if you completely contort the argument to something unrelated and then apply it to a guy with a much, much weaker resume, it's applicable.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:11 am to wareagle7298
Dude, give up on the Cignetti talk. He's not going anywhere. He just got contracted extended and is make north of $11 Million/year.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:14 am to metafour
I don't think Franklin is a perfectly safe hire. I think he's by far the most likely safe hire aside from Lane.
Franklin may not need to change anything. He won 13 games last year.
He knows how to manage a bigger program than Auburn and did it over a long tenure. He has a successful history in the SEC. He's pretty cold and calculating and thinks Penn State acted to hastily and wants to prove he's right.
Sumrall could be better, Key could be better - There is almost no evidence-based case you can make for it. All the Auburn writers say we're not going to go the route you believe is the best one - hiring a rising star at the coordinator level.
I can be persuaded in all sorts of directions about this. But I definitely think it's patently absurd to call the hypothetical hire of the least JABA and most accomplished AU candidate of all time "foolish."
Franklin may not need to change anything. He won 13 games last year.
He knows how to manage a bigger program than Auburn and did it over a long tenure. He has a successful history in the SEC. He's pretty cold and calculating and thinks Penn State acted to hastily and wants to prove he's right.
Sumrall could be better, Key could be better - There is almost no evidence-based case you can make for it. All the Auburn writers say we're not going to go the route you believe is the best one - hiring a rising star at the coordinator level.
I can be persuaded in all sorts of directions about this. But I definitely think it's patently absurd to call the hypothetical hire of the least JABA and most accomplished AU candidate of all time "foolish."
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:21 am to Pettifogger
Here's one that makes you go hmmmmm......
Jimbo Fischer
Jimbo Fischer
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:23 am to Pettifogger
Meta is right on skepticism. Franklin has coached 15 years and 50 million dropped in his lap. It makes you wonder much more he has in the tank. Meta doesnt want any Mark Richts going to Miami type coaches
But I agree with you...and Pete. The board will end up hiring an unfit up and comer when we should be embracing a coach out of our league dropping onto our plate.
For real?
Thanks. I've been working on my ability to persuade through emotions and logic equally.
But I agree with you...and Pete. The board will end up hiring an unfit up and comer when we should be embracing a coach out of our league dropping onto our plate.
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All the Auburn writers say we're not going to go the route you believe is the best one - hiring a rising star at the coordinator level.
For real?
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I can be persuaded in all sorts of directions about this.
Thanks. I've been working on my ability to persuade through emotions and logic equally.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:26 am to AUtigR24
I think the credible knocks on Franklin are "is he another Jimbo or Kelly"
But a few points -
- Obviously Franklin is 7 years younger and has coached at a high level very recently. Jimbo was given the moon and did less with much, much more than he would have at Auburn.
- Both A&M and LSU paid exorbitantly to "steal" (at least with Kelly) away high end coaches that didn't strike fear into the heart of anyone. I can see that knock on Franklin as fair - that nobody in the SEC will cower at Franklin's hire. A risk, we won't have to invest 100m to do it.
Moreover Kelly has won 10, 10 and 9 games at LSU. LSU's expectations are higher and their program is better positioned.
But a few points -
- Obviously Franklin is 7 years younger and has coached at a high level very recently. Jimbo was given the moon and did less with much, much more than he would have at Auburn.
- Both A&M and LSU paid exorbitantly to "steal" (at least with Kelly) away high end coaches that didn't strike fear into the heart of anyone. I can see that knock on Franklin as fair - that nobody in the SEC will cower at Franklin's hire. A risk, we won't have to invest 100m to do it.
Moreover Kelly has won 10, 10 and 9 games at LSU. LSU's expectations are higher and their program is better positioned.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:29 am to AUtigR24
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Here's one that makes you go hmmmmm......
Jimbo Fischer
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