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Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:22 am to
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Auburn leads the nation in most transfers from the G5 fwiw with 65% of the class coming from that level


Looking forward to going to the playoffs this year and winning it all next year. Love the blueprint AG is following.



Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:03 pm to
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Auburn leads the nation in most transfers from the G5 fwiw with 65% of the class coming from that level


Didn’t Indiana have like 77% Cig’s first year? Obviously we don’t know if we’ll get the results they got, but at least there is some blueprint.
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:26 pm to
At some point a coach must decide which he would rather deal with. Either endure the BS from these kids agents/uncles to sign who we need to win or endure the wrath of the fans/community for losing. Gotta pick 1 it seems
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:08 pm to
Cignetti's blueprint is getting a bunch of veteran super seniors and coaching them up. He seems to value experience over 5 star athletic ability.

I don't know the age of the guys Golesh is bringing in, but maybe that is his idea.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:18 pm to
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At some point a coach must decide which he would rather deal with. Either endure the BS from these kids agents/uncles to sign who we need to win or endure the wrath of the fans/community for losing. Gotta pick 1 it seems


BS. You need a HC that can develop talent. I just watched a team with ZERO 5's and just over a handful of 4's win a NC.



Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:56 pm to
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Cignetti's blueprint is getting a bunch of veteran super seniors and coaching them up. He seems to value experience over 5 star athletic ability.
There's also the benefit that veteran super seniors will not be sitting around for years to come. They'll be gone rather quick and then we'll be free to go any direction. With luck we recruit a little higher up the food chain, if not he'll just keep chugging along and trying to strike gold with another similar guy.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45175 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:07 pm to
I still think HS recruiting needs to make up 80% of your program. Cig got lucky with Mendoza. But so did Chizik and O. I would rather have sustained success like Kirby.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:11 pm to
MeToo

But he's trying stay at the top in the rarefied air; while we're down here breathing in herd dust.
Posted by metafour
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:36 pm to
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I still think HS recruiting needs to make up 80% of your program. Cig got lucky with Mendoza. But so did Chizik and O. I would rather have sustained success like Kirby.



He made the CFP last season as well with some no-name QB from Miami (of Ohio).

He didn't get lucky with anything. Their player development/evaluation is through the fricking roof. They have talent all over the field. The whole claim that they have no talent because someone didn't give them a 5-star rating is moronic. Their talent is elite, as proven by the dominance on the field.

On3 just launched their "Impact Rankings" (basically ranking the actual current players across the country as if they were recruits) and Indiana had something like 8 or 9 players on the Top 100 players nationally. One of them was the QB Josh Hoover who just transferred from TCU so you can exclude him, but the remainder were basically all under-recruited players that they have developed into monsters.

And its not all 24 year old Super-Seniors. They have players like this Charlie Becker kid who was the #80 WR (247 ranking) from Tennessee that came out of the same HS class as Cam Coleman and Perry Thompson. This kid was sitting in SEC country and Indiana snatched him up and he now ranks among the 100 best players in the country according to On3:

LINK

Another example is LB Rolijah Hardy. This kid was a 0-star from Florida from that same 2024 HS class, and he is now ranked as one of the best LB's in the entire country. It is simply absurd scouting and development:

LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 6:41 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22530 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:27 pm to
Becker was signed by the old staff… only guy Cig kept. Played at father Ryan here in Nashville. State champ hurdler.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 7:27 pm
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
1732 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:00 pm to
Theres gotta be talent to develop. A kids ceiling is a kids ceiling. Im not a star chaser or anything but Indiana is going to have to do it more than 1-2 seasons to use it as the new blueprint. They brought in a qb overachiever and the pieces fell into place similar to our 2010 more so than he reinvented the playbook the past 2 seasons.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21200 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:15 pm to
I feel we have some solid players. We definitely have to have some guys really step up from the young guys to the transfers. I want to see some action in the spring of how players look in the system and if we can have people start taking strides to be difference makers.

Then I will start to have an idea of how the team might do. We could be great we could be horrible. The health of Byrum Brown is paramount
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29785 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 9:56 pm to
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Theres gotta be talent to develop. A kids ceiling is a kids ceiling. Im not a star chaser or anything but Indiana is going to have to do it more than 1-2 seasons to use it as the new blueprint. They brought in a qb overachiever and the pieces fell into place similar to our 2010 more so than he reinvented the playbook the past 2 seasons.


They made the playoffs the last two years with two different QB's. Every school in the country would take that.
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:20 pm to
I agree Corch on BB staying healthy I dont even want to consider the situation, but almost every team is one injury away from an outside perspective. I read an article where it was saying Colorado is going into next season with Juju as the QB. It made me feel better about upgrading from Deuce to Brown. every team has a weak spot. I just hope ours isn't as bad as others.
I always lean towards being too optimistic about our team. It can often lead to disappointment but the excitement from high expectations is next best behind winning for me.

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They made the playoffs the last two years with two different QB's. Every school in the country would take that. ?

Mr.AU yeah I saw that on TV as well. So you predicted Indiana would win the Championship this year? Hindsight is 20/20. Noone was wooing over them either preseason the last 2 years. Being thats its so easy call up CAG and pitch your discovery to him.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29785 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:48 am to
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So you predicted Indiana would win the Championship this year?


nobody predicted either of the teams in the NC game.

However, the team with zero 5's and 8 4's went into the Tourney as the #1 seed...........in other words, again, winning on NSD doesn't mean a damn thing. Finding talent and developing it is what wins games.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9893 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:28 am to
I guess we will see if motivated 3 and 4 * former G5 players are better than lazy, rich 4 and 5 * P5 players
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19114 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:44 am to
I think you are very very selective in who you take from HS and sign them to multi year contracts with big back end payouts for performance.

Take the majority from the portal with the same multi year contracts.

Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15389 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:20 am to
It's interesting that while high school recruiting retains importance in the portal era, it's a different kind of importance.

Before:
1. Recruit the best players you can get at every position
2. They sit behind proven performers unless they are willing to sacrifice a year of time to move on
3. There are rebuilding years and reloading years

After:
1. Recruit the best player you can get at positions of need that will immediately contribute. If they don't play you are paying NIL for a guy who will very likely leave the next year.
2. Pick up lower rated developmental guys that won't demand huge NIL investment. They sit and develop and are ready when a proven performer graduates / signs a deal elsewhere.
3. Every year for SEC/B1G is a reloading year, even when whole coaching staff changes occur.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:01 am to
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2. Pick up lower rated developmental guys that won't demand huge NIL investment. They sit and develop and are ready when a proven performer graduates / signs a deal elsewhere.


I think this is where the higher number of scholarships really helps. You go around the state of alabama and take 25 guys that grew up in Auburn families and that want to play at Auburn badly, put them on scholarship and work on developing them from 2 or 3 star guys that normally wouldn't get the shot. It may take a couple years to build them out into backups or some may need a year or two in weight rooms and nutritionists to become top notch players.

The old Tuberville model of developing players and them being really nice players in 2 or 3 years can still be done but you aren't doing it with mercs that have no allegiance to your school.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13666 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:12 am to
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allegiance to your school


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