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re: Official count. 19 drops??
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:47 am to SECdragonmaster
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:47 am to SECdragonmaster
The one I remember most was Jackson’s drop.
Pass hit him in both hands chest high.
That one has to be caught.
Some of the others could have been thrown better, but great players should make a great catch on close throws.
I have not seen many great catches by is this year.
For every “drop” there should be a great “catch” where the receiver makes a play to make his QB look good.
I guess Hudson has a couple of those, but I can’t think of more than 2 really great catches.
Pass hit him in both hands chest high.
That one has to be caught.
Some of the others could have been thrown better, but great players should make a great catch on close throws.
I have not seen many great catches by is this year.
For every “drop” there should be a great “catch” where the receiver makes a play to make his QB look good.
I guess Hudson has a couple of those, but I can’t think of more than 2 really great catches.
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:52 am to makersmark1
Half arse WR's
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a half arse QB
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a half arse passing game.
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a half arse QB
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a half arse passing game.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:56 am to awestruck
Auburn has the stupidest fans in the nation.
And this is coming from a sidewalker.
And this is coming from a sidewalker.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:05 am to jangalang
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And Steeler, what should constitute a drop is dropping a ball during an ordinary play. So Shivers drop should be considered a drop. Shenkers drop when he awkwardly turned the wrong way probably wouldn’t be considered a drop even though it was a mental gaffe.
I think PFF said they counted 8 drops, which is damn too many, but we know it's a combination of Bo not putting it in better places for the WR as well as WRs that are avg ball catchers.
And on the Shenker play, I only remember seeing 1 replay, so is it a given he turned the wrong way or could it be he was looking for it over his left shoulder when Bo sailed it more over his right shoulder?
On this play, knowing Shenker is our best route runner and hands, I have to go with an errant pass, but again I have to see the film again to really feel good about my analysis.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:15 am to AuSteeler
Bennett Durando, Pro Football Focus charged Auburn with seven drops against the Bulldogs, leaving the Tigers with an SEC-leading 23 through six games. Defined as on-target passes dropped by the receiver.
-That started with a first-and-goal pass from Bo Nix
-On Auburn’s second drive, running back Shaun Shiver (Intercepted).
- Wide receiver Demetris Robertson had a pair of drops, including one on a well-set up screen that looked like it would have been a substantial gain and then one on a fourth-and-8 attempt from Nix early in the third quarter.
- Senior wide receiver Shedrick Jackson also had a big drop on a third-down attempt up the seam and into Georgia territory midway through the second quarter, which forced Auburn to punt while trailing 17-3 at that point.
I think all of last year we had something like 22.
-That started with a first-and-goal pass from Bo Nix
-On Auburn’s second drive, running back Shaun Shiver (Intercepted).
- Wide receiver Demetris Robertson had a pair of drops, including one on a well-set up screen that looked like it would have been a substantial gain and then one on a fourth-and-8 attempt from Nix early in the third quarter.
- Senior wide receiver Shedrick Jackson also had a big drop on a third-down attempt up the seam and into Georgia territory midway through the second quarter, which forced Auburn to punt while trailing 17-3 at that point.
I think all of last year we had something like 22.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:26 am to allin2010
7 isn't close to being correct. It's somewhere between 10-13 in reality.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:35 am to AuSteeler
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I think PFF said they counted 8 drops, which is damn too many, but we know it's a combination of Bo not putting it in better places for the WR
Do we know this to be true? Or is it true because you are one of the salty Finley cheerleaders that didn’t get your way
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Defined as on-target passes dropped by the receiver
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:40 am to jangalang
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Do we know this to be true? Or is it true because you are one of the salty Finley cheerleaders that didn’t get your way
Your fishing for a reason Jang.
Never been a Finley cheerleader. I would rather Bo keep working on improving his game.
I was at the game, and I think there was a time or 2 again where Bo bailed out of a pretty good pocket, but if Finley had been in that game, he would have been sacked double the Bo's sacks, and/or thrown real INTs trying to unload the ball before getting sacked.
And whether it was 8 drops or even more as some think, its simply too many to give yourself a chance in the passing game against a good team.
As Harsin said we had shots, but too many mistakes in different areas.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:53 am to AuSteeler
lol bullshite. You and goose both couldnt stop bitching about Nix before the LSU game and couldnt shut up bout a performance in a singular 98 yard drive against georgia state.
You said plenty but I will point out this stupid quote.
It's all bullshite and absurd.
You said plenty but I will point out this stupid quote.
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The difference I feel is that Bo still, and I feel, will always lack QB mentality of how he sees a pass play developing and knowing instinctively to not execute a bad play or read the defense well enough to go a different direction.
Finley seems to show(with limited video ofc), a QB mentality that you can't teach, and it shows in how he sees a play, the defense, or an option that might be better than the play called.
It's all bullshite and absurd.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:59 am to jangalang
Not directed at you Jang but for everyone.
If we are fans why can't we pull for both Bo and TJ.
If we are fans why can't we pull for both Bo and TJ.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:01 am to CorchJay
quote:Because this is Auburn. Under no circumstances can we handle a QB battle in an appropriate way.
If we are fans why can't we pull for both Bo and TJ.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:05 am to CorchJay
The grass is always greener, cuz. People wanted Germy Johnson to play more in 2014 too.
I don’t care if they like Finley or not. He’s no better and the floor disappears but whatever. But stop being so bipolar that fans want to suck his cock one week and then say he should move on the next week.
I don’t care if they like Finley or not. He’s no better and the floor disappears but whatever. But stop being so bipolar that fans want to suck his cock one week and then say he should move on the next week.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 11:59 am to jangalang
Just looking at some stats.. Capers had 6 snaps at WR all game and Canion had 0. When other people are droppings balls its unacceptable to not be giving these guys a shot.
Also we heard over and over about Javarrius Johnson all off season, and he's also barely ever on the field.
But yet Shed Jackson is still on the field for 63 of 72 offensive plays. Someone make it make sense.
And just for good measure....
Also we heard over and over about Javarrius Johnson all off season, and he's also barely ever on the field.
But yet Shed Jackson is still on the field for 63 of 72 offensive plays. Someone make it make sense.
And just for good measure....
quote:This OL is and has been shite for years.
• Auburn's best pass-blocking offensive lineman was Brodarious Hamm (81.7); its worst was Brandon Council (25.2). • Auburn's best run-blocking offensive lineman was Tashawn Manning (59.9); its worst was Hamm (45.1).
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:36 pm to jt33
Var Johnson is banged up.
How many times do I have to say this....
Canion and Capers fricked off all fall practice. Loafed around half assing it thinking they were just gonna walk in as starters. I'm not sure Canion isn't in the dog house big time or possibly covid stuff. He didn't even travel last week i don't think. could be mistaken
How many times do I have to say this....
Canion and Capers fricked off all fall practice. Loafed around half assing it thinking they were just gonna walk in as starters. I'm not sure Canion isn't in the dog house big time or possibly covid stuff. He didn't even travel last week i don't think. could be mistaken
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:42 pm to CorchJay
quote:Johnson played 8 snaps last game and I'm not sure he was targeted a single time.
Var Johnson is banged up.
How many times do I have to say this....
Canion and Capers fricked off all fall practice. Loafed around half assing it thinking they were just gonna walk in as starters. I'm not sure Canion isn't in the dog house big time or possibly covid stuff. He didn't even travel last week i don't think. could be mistaken
Even if thats true about Capers and Canion.. at what point do you have to give them a shot anyway? Its not like they could do much worse. If the starters can't get the job done then the much higher rated players should get a shot.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:01 pm to jt33
quote:That speaks to Corch’s post about getting results with the current roster vs establishing a culture.
Even if thats true about Capers and Canion.. at what point do you have to give them a shot anyway? Its not like they could do much worse. If the starters can't get the job done then the much higher rated players should get a shot.
Hate to bring Bama/Saban up in this context, but it’s probably the best example of the trade-off. DJ Hall came into 2007 just shy of becoming the all-time Bama record holder in several categories, but he allegedly resented Saban’s “process” and sulked the entire season.
Of course Saban used him all year long, because despite his poor attitude and work ethic he still put them in the best position to win games. Supposedly he got the hell beat out of himself by one or more of his teammates along the way, and was famously suspended for the first half in the LAMO loss.
Not saying Canion/Capers are any way on the DJ Hall career path, but (speculating here) their absence on the field might be related to their attitude in the locker room.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:30 pm to jangalang
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But stop being so bipolar that fans want to suck his cock one week and then say he should move on the next week.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:05 pm to Smoke7024
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There were 19 incompletions. 19 drops isn’t close to right
Four were intentional throw aways that I know of. One tipped at line of scrimmage.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:13 pm to jangalang
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lol bull shite. You and goose both couldnt stop bitching about Nix before the LSU game and couldnt shut up bout a performance in a singular 98 yard drive against georgia state.
You said plenty but I will point out this stupid quote.
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The difference I feel is that Bo still, and I feel, will always lack QB mentality of how he sees a pass play developing and knowing instinctively to not execute a bad play or read the defense well enough to go a different direction.
Finley seems to show(with limited video ofc), a QB mentality that you can't teach, and it shows in how he sees a play, the defense, or an option that might be better than the play called.
It's all bull shite and absurd.
Ok JAng. I see your point.
But my comments at that moment reflect what I see, and how the QB executes his plays. If Bo was doing so great, Bo doesn't get pulled by Harsin, so Finley can save the day against a weaker team.
What I am trying to point out is that Bo is inconsistent. He goes game to game, improving on some things, making bad decisions in another.
I want both QBs to succeed.WHy? Because I want AUburn to succeed. But if a player is making mistakes then I have an opinion.
ANd I am not certainly going to call another poster out, bc I find snippets of contradiction.
Is Bo playing better? Definitely better than last year. But game to game and within a game, he still could be more consistent, and that is what Harsin is trying to get him to do. And why he is sticking with Bo, bc he sees them in practice. I don't...
And I don't post enough to be considered a bitcher.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:35 pm to AuSteeler
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ANd I am not certainly going to call another poster out, bc I find snippets of contradiction.
You said you didn’t become a Finley cheerleader although I had a week’s worth of posts from you that contradicted your statement. A week’s worth of posts that I had recently interacted with so obviously those posts were still fresh.
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f Bo was doing so great, Bo doesn't get pulled by Harsin, so Finley can save the day against a weaker team.
I said then Bo was frustrated and every QB is going to have a bad day. Still, he wasn’t the only player having an epicly bad day. Finley coming in with a sound mind because he hadnt endured the bull shite that Bo went through up to that point and executing doesn’t make him the better QB and that was my point.
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Is Bo playing better? Definitely better than last year. But game to game and within a game, he still could be more consistent
Bo has been very consistent given what he has to work with. Adjusted for the credited drops he had an 87 percent completion percentage against Georgia. Is that right? I don’t see how you can expect any QB to develop a rhythm right now. It’s almost like you just want to criticize the position player performing the best right now nevermind the drops or weakness across the board.
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